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tavernier

(12,374 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:54 PM Jul 2018

Isn't the CIA or FBI supposed to do something to stop Rump from giving away the farm to Putin?

Or is that only in the movies?

Or maybe I shouldn’t worry because he probably really doesn’t pay attention or listen to classified info, let alone read anything?

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Isn't the CIA or FBI supposed to do something to stop Rump from giving away the farm to Putin? (Original Post) tavernier Jul 2018 OP
Same question I've had, just how much further can this go!!! IMO it shows our gov. is totally RKP5637 Jul 2018 #1
I don't think . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jul 2018 #3
Yes, you're quite correct. I was thinking more along the lines of our failed congress. I don't RKP5637 Jul 2018 #6
Fair enough . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jul 2018 #14
Quite true, people get what they vote for, although HRC did win the popular vote. And a lot of it RKP5637 Jul 2018 #16
The CIA will know everything that is said... Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #2
I hope you are right. tavernier Jul 2018 #5
I hear you my friend... Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #8
They probably have their own Trump pee tape lame54 Jul 2018 #7
I think a pee tape is just the tip of the iceberg. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #11
GOP Senators just visited Russia. Nunes and the house GOPers are Iliyah Jul 2018 #4
Yep, it seems a power grab for the world by a very wealthy and powerful coup operating across the RKP5637 Jul 2018 #9
And we paid for the flights. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #12
Actually that's the people's job grantcart Jul 2018 #10
Half of the people are hypnotized and brainwashed by Fox. tavernier Jul 2018 #15
And what about Rupert Murdoch??? He's behind the whole Fox News operation and I never RKP5637 Jul 2018 #17
They will send him in well prepared ornotna Jul 2018 #13
so when trump takes the US out of NATO how much will he and his friends make? nt msongs Jul 2018 #18
I'm glad my Latvian parents didn't live to see this. tavernier Jul 2018 #20
No. It's congress that isn't doing their job JI7 Jul 2018 #19
If they did, it would be clear evidence that the Deep State exists lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #21
Agreed. If that were true, tavernier Jul 2018 #22

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
1. Same question I've had, just how much further can this go!!! IMO it shows our gov. is totally
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:59 PM
Jul 2018

failing for checks and balances when a criminal/gangster/coup operation has seized power.

3. I don't think . . .
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:05 PM
Jul 2018

. . . that the CIA or the FBI "doing something" about Trump is what is meant by "checks and balances" under our constitutional system. Rather the contrary, actually.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
6. Yes, you're quite correct. I was thinking more along the lines of our failed congress. I don't
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:10 PM
Jul 2018

think our founders envisioned a president wanting to destroy the country for many and a willing congress that is complicit and complacent. I think it was Jefferson (I'm pretty sure) that was concerned the evolution of a two party system and corporations could possibly destroy the country.

14. Fair enough . . .
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:16 PM
Jul 2018

. . . although, there, I don't think the blame can ultimately be laid at the feet of Congress.

Almost by definition, given the structure of our representative government, the true failure rests with the people of this country, no?

I mean, that's almost ontologically true, I should think. We get the government we deserve, and we are getting it.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
16. Quite true, people get what they vote for, although HRC did win the popular vote. And a lot of it
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:25 PM
Jul 2018

starts with the local/state elections, but lots of people IMO do not pay attention, and fewer pay attention to the election, for example, of judges at the local level wherein sometimes they are voted in. It's hard to judge a judge, so to say, as often information is scant and some states/politicians try to block the information from public view.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
2. The CIA will know everything that is said...
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jul 2018

rest assured. So will Russias FSB. They don't operate in a vacuum.
Will WE know it? No. They have so many surveillance methods it would make your head spin.

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
5. I hope you are right.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:08 PM
Jul 2018

I just haven’t seen any checks and balances, as the other poster mentioned, up until now, so it feels like we’re about to lose our country.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
11. I think a pee tape is just the tip of the iceberg.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:15 PM
Jul 2018

This fuckin spoiled brat has been catting around the world for his entire life on his dads dime. IM SURE he's done worse things than have prossies piss on a mattress.
Snorting coke off his daughters ass...or something even more deviant would be my guess. Got high in Russia...and behaved in a manner most unbecoming, and the Ruskies got it on digital.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. GOP Senators just visited Russia. Nunes and the house GOPers are
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:06 PM
Jul 2018

in Putin's pocket, the actual fake news got a whole lot of money and pulls from the very rich from USA and around the world.

But the greedy always effs up.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
9. Yep, it seems a power grab for the world by a very wealthy and powerful coup operating across the
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:13 PM
Jul 2018

world.

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
15. Half of the people are hypnotized and brainwashed by Fox.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:22 PM
Jul 2018

And Russia has been working on them as well.

We are trying, but we could sure use some help.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
17. And what about Rupert Murdoch??? He's behind the whole Fox News operation and I never
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:29 PM
Jul 2018

hear his agenda questioned. I think a lot of Americans are lazy and stupid, that's my opinion.

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
20. I'm glad my Latvian parents didn't live to see this.
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:46 PM
Jul 2018

I’m afraid I agree with you that NATO is the next thing Putin will insist we leave.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
19. No. It's congress that isn't doing their job
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:36 PM
Jul 2018

Cia, fbi etc can give and show what they have but republicans in congress don't care so.............



lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
21. If they did, it would be clear evidence that the Deep State exists
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 02:31 AM
Jul 2018

which, of course, there is absolutely no evidence that it does... or if it does, it is much more incompetent than is reasonable

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
22. Agreed. If that were true,
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 07:11 AM
Jul 2018

our “deep state” isn’t very deep or sophisticated if they didn’t know ahead of our election that we had been infiltrated by the Russians.

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