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Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:14 AM

Tomasky: Bogus Dems in disarray media narrative belies positive news for November

Tomasky points out that the numbers for November are better for Dems than for repubs in the Tea Party year and that the media has grealy overblown Democratic infighting:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-in-disarray-no-thats-the-myopic-media?ref=home

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Reply Tomasky: Bogus Dems in disarray media narrative belies positive news for November (Original post)
Bradshaw3 Jul 2018 OP
NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #1
0rganism Jul 2018 #6
NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #7
Bradshaw3 Jul 2018 #15
NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #17
still_one Jul 2018 #2
lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #3
TheRealNorth Jul 2018 #4
True Blue American Jul 2018 #9
kcr Jul 2018 #5
True Blue American Jul 2018 #8
pecosbob Jul 2018 #10
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #11
Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #13
Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #12
Scurrilous Jul 2018 #14
Cha Jul 2018 #16
Blue_Tires Jul 2018 #18

Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:16 AM

1. In 2010

Republicans picked up 60 seats in the House.

However, Democrats aren't just battling Republicans that they're running against, they need to fight voter suppression, gerrymandering and Russian attempts to influence the election.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:23 PM

6. gerrymandering might work against them this time

since it relies on a fairly static electorate composition to be effective.
"spread out your safest seat advantage to cover more districts" can work as long as the original turnout holds, but if you've remapped a 20-pt advantage seat into 4 5-pt advantage seats, your brilliant plan is going to encounter problems if a couple of those gerrymandered districts shift by more than 5 points. if all goes well, we could be seeing a lot of that in November.

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:48 PM

7. I think Democrats are also helped

big time by the 40+ retirements among the GOP. Some of those incumbents may have been consistent 20 point winners, but how will a virtual unknown fare against a motivated Democrat?

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:26 PM

15. The Democrats are unlikely to pick up 60 seats even though their numbers are better

I think was his point. We can't let that deter us, though. Even picking up 30 to 40 seats with the gerrymanering, etc. you point out would be a great victory in 2018. We have to appreciate the potential positives that can come America's way in November if we all fight for our country.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:29 PM

17. In 2010

Republicans ran strictly on hatred of Obama and Obamacare. No other real agenda.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:18 AM

2. It is quite obvious that there are divisionary forces at work here. I hope we are wise enough not

to be misled by their deception.

Vote Democratic in 2018



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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 11:20 AM

3. +1 We are the people - all the reasonable people anyway.

That's how it is and will always be.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:07 PM

4. It will be a tough fight (But not impossible)

Because of all the gerrymandered House seats created after 2010. But we have to keep in mind the long game and win the governorship on states like OH, FL, WI, PA, so that the House districts after 2020 will be fairer. Otherwise it will be another 10 years of those states being dominated by Republicans because they will have complete control of redistricting after 2020.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:28 PM

9. Not on Ohio!

We passed an Independent Committee is May.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:15 PM

5. But Rhode Island tho

Haven't you heard of that travesty? That state was long known for its rock-solid politics! It's all-out war.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:27 PM

8. Grass roots workers are spreading out all over.

I read this morning the young are concentrating on the Net to bring people out. Latest techniques.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:52 PM

10. Even NPR is pushing this narrative

so much BS...

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:54 PM

11. Russia is active on all fronts pushing the "infighting" narrative. Hashtags and all. . . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:58 PM

13. Yeah, definitely something to keep an eye on...

it will get worse before November, we can be sure.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:58 PM

12. The media needs a fight for ratings...

for some reason, they can't imagine the Righties being involved, just lefty on lefty.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:10 PM

14. K&R

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:28 PM

16. Tomasky has always been a

reality based writer. Not one who writes to fit his agenda.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:31 PM

18. Everyone should know by now that the "disarray" stories are

agitprop bullshit... God knows we're tired of seeing the same fake-assed talking points from the usual suspects ever even-numbered year...

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