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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDisturbing: Trump's favorability is HIGHER than it was pre-election.
Last week and a half before 11/8/16 - 37.5 Favorable, 58.5 Unfavorable
https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president/clintontrumpfavorability.html
6/1/18 - 7/3/18 - 41.8 Favorable, 53.2 Unfavorable
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html
These policies can't possibly be winning him more voters, can they? Maybe question is being asked differently today than in 2016? Where are all these alleged supporters?
potone
(1,701 posts)WTF is wrong with people?
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)and, he is selling mediocre to above average economic results as being fantastic and wonderful and the best thing ever, and there is really nobody with any sort of platform out there to counter his BS. The only good thing under Trump is that unemployment has continued to drop, like it had been under Obama. (And, even then, the unemployment decreases have slowed under Trump)
Pelosi and Schumer are out there doing what they can, but if nobody gives them a microphone, will they be heard?
Obama never went out & boasted about good economic numbers every week or every month, and he rarely got much media coverage for his any of his speeches (with the exception of his run for president in 2008). But, Obama was also smart enough to know that economic numbers can change in a week or a month to something bad - Trump just doesn't care.
no_hypocrisy
(46,067 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)and vote one election day. But I let a lot of folks convince me of that back in 2016, including the media, and I won't make that mistake again.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)We must outnumber them.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)former9thward
(31,970 posts)to most of Reagan's policies than supported them. But he won his elections in landslides.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)As I've posted numerous times: https://www.vox.com/2018/5/1/17258866/democratic-party-republicans-trump-election
NRaleighLiberal
(60,013 posts)now that it is president, the pro trump brainwash megaphone is in full gear.
His supporters are neither deep thinkers or particularly smart - all they can do is follow. They are truly pathetic.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Quinnipiac has Trump's support among Republicans at 86%, which is crazy high. Only post-9/11 GWB could boast a higher approval rating (within his own party) at the 500-day mark.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Trump was in the high 70s/low 80s for approval among Republicans. That was actually low in comparison to GWB in his early months in office. However, since that time, Trump has solidified his support among Republicans (another poll had him at 90% among Republicans)
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)according to Gallup last fall. I can't imagine that they've gained much in the meantime. 86% of 24% is nothing to write home about but it's the hopeless, die-hard base he's playing to.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Many so-called independents are Republicans. Still, I have no doubt that we're in the majority...but we have to contend with race-based voter suppression and gerrymandering, Russian meddling and an irresponsible infotainment industry.
unblock
(52,183 posts)Leaving what's left of the Republican Party more densely populated with Donnie supporters.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Republican affiliation is up 4 points since March, though there's always some margin of error.
There are anti-Trump Republicans to be sure, but there always have been. If he's creating more, it's not enough to adjust the affiliation numbers.
And Trump's approval numbers are also holding steady, at right around 40%. This is a very, very sick society.
unblock
(52,183 posts)neither the job market nor the stock market nor interest rates nor consumer prices nor the overall economy yet reflects how truly awful Donnie is.
Right now he's planting seeds of destruction. The trade wars are the only thing that people can fairly notice and directly tie to Donnie. But this is not yet major and widespread.
By November 2020, people will certainly feel the pain and will vote accordingly. But I really don't think what he's doing will hit home for most swing voters by the midterms.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And most don't properly connect policies with those responsible for said policies. Work, mindless entertainment, sleep...rinse and repeat. That's a typical day for most.
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/1/17258866/democratic-party-republicans-trump-election
I definitely want to get into some of these structural barriers, but lets be clear about this point youre making. A lot of people still think theres some meaningful connection between policy outcomes and voter decisions, but theres a good bit of political science research to suggest thats just a fantasy.
David Faris
Right. People just dont seem to make the connection between policies and the party in power.
So, for example, the Democrats passed Obamacare and gave millions of people heath care, and yet tons of people who benefited from it have no idea what it is or how they benefited. And its like that with a lot of policies voters simply dont connect the dots, and so they reward or punish the wrong party.
I think the idea that were going to deliver these benefits to people and theyre going to be like, Thank you Jesus, thank you for everything that youve done, let me return you with a larger majority next time, is just nonsense. Its the wrong way to think about politics.
That doesnt mean we shouldnt do things for people, but weve got to be serious about how elections are won. And theyre not being won on the basis of policy proposals or policy wins.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)Local economy has really picked up and Trump is being given a lot of the credit.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)a kennedy
(29,644 posts)Not real worried about what they publish. JMHO.
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)trying to get people riled up.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Probably keeping very quiet due to shit like this.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210831513