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mainer

(12,016 posts)
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 07:44 AM Jul 2018

Senator Angus King revealed a disturbing bit of info last night

He gave a presentation at the Camden (Maine) Opera House last night. He spoke about his work on the Senate Intelligence Committee, and as usual he was literate, well-versed in details, and a cracking good speaker.

He said the IT department at a small bank in rural Maine told him their bank was getting ONE HUNDRED cyber-attacks a day, and these attacks are almost always traced back to Russia or the Ukraine. If one small bank in northern Maine is getting attacked by Russia a hundred times a day, imagine what's happening to all our financial institutions.

I know a lot of Trump supporters don't really care that Russia is trying to bring down our democracy. I wonder how they'll feel when their bank accounts suddenly vanish.

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Senator Angus King revealed a disturbing bit of info last night (Original Post) mainer Jul 2018 OP
yeah but Putin is OK mnmoderatedem Jul 2018 #1
Bank Security Roy Rolling Jul 2018 #15
+1 C Moon Jul 2018 #57
Other companies that issue Ilsa Jul 2018 #2
All while trump claims duforsure Jul 2018 #3
Don't forget the members of Congress Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #40
That's pretty scary. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #4
The KGOpee republicans aren't lifting a finger to defend America Achilleaze Jul 2018 #5
They've joined the BABs griloco Jul 2018 #21
'Cause they want that help again. calimary Jul 2018 #56
We know they have hacked into our electric grid before rurallib Jul 2018 #6
Don't fuck with the money (NT) The Wizard Jul 2018 #7
trump enabled them heaven05 Jul 2018 #8
Yes to Stein. Yes to Sarandon. But Ocasio-Cortez is the future sharedvalues Jul 2018 #26
I will look closer nt. heaven05 Jul 2018 #31
I saw a picture of Ocasio-Cortez murielm99 Jul 2018 #34
I did see one heaven05 Jul 2018 #42
I believe there's a campaign finance law violation in that poster on the screen in the background... George II Jul 2018 #43
Not necessarily. kag Jul 2018 #44
Russia is a nation run by mobsters. That's what mobsters do. nt oasis Jul 2018 #9
JP Morgan Chase Spends Over $100 Million/Year Fending Off Hackers and Thieves dlk Jul 2018 #10
Yes Roy Rolling Jul 2018 #16
russia is attacking. republicans are surrendering. Achilleaze Jul 2018 #22
I'll bet kag Jul 2018 #45
Actually, the CONS aren't surrendering. calimary Jul 2018 #52
Such an unfair comparison for Arnold grantcart Jul 2018 #58
20-bit encryption? The minimum cyber standard is now CBC-SHA256. TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #33
20 bit encyption.... reACTIONary Jul 2018 #49
OMG. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #11
I know, scary isn't it? If all electronic records of our accounts vanished? mainer Jul 2018 #13
Extortion is the Goal Roy Rolling Jul 2018 #17
Back up tapes that are stored offsite will restore your records. That is why when you LiberalArkie Jul 2018 #19
Yes! kag Jul 2018 #46
I don't get paper copies. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #37
Probably both. AllyCat Jul 2018 #18
Trump would outsource America's cybersecurity to Russia IronLionZion Jul 2018 #12
It makes you want to hide your money under a mattress mainer Jul 2018 #14
Maybe when Russia hacks their bank accounts, steals their election RestoreAmerica2020 Jul 2018 #20
Excellent observations. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #38
I think Angus King would be an ideal VP candidate. kentuck Jul 2018 #23
As of last month, that notion became a non starter Brother Buzz Jul 2018 #25
Too bad. kentuck Jul 2018 #27
I like Angus King, too. Very calm, cool, informed, intelligent. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #39
Too bad Bernie spoiled it for others Hekate Jul 2018 #35
Yep. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #36
Angus described his role as the go-between in committees mainer Jul 2018 #28
I've met him several times. You're right. DFW Jul 2018 #41
100 attacks a day is less than i would expect. Calista241 Jul 2018 #24
And Trump does nothing. C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #29
'Cause he wants their help again. calimary Jul 2018 #55
White House eliminates top cyber adviser post keithbvadu2 Jul 2018 #30
For generations the USAF has flown missions up and down or eastern coastline to protect.... usaf-vet Jul 2018 #32
do you think equifax breach was orchestrated by russia? AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #47
Scary stuff. liberalnarb Jul 2018 #48
Russia should have been on the radar 10 years ago. MadDAsHell Jul 2018 #50
And don't forget: FDIC insured doesn't mean what it used to mean. Crash2Parties Jul 2018 #51
Until maggot MFM008 Jul 2018 #53
You live in Camden?? WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2018 #54
People everywhere seem to know about our little Shangri-La! mainer Jul 2018 #59
That's nothing new TrogL Jul 2018 #60

Roy Rolling

(6,905 posts)
15. Bank Security
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:47 AM
Jul 2018

I worked for two decades managing web presence and online security for a small bank. Getting a hundred hits a day from mostly Russian sources evolved into an everyday occurrence.

Most of the traffic is like a burglar late at night checking doors of a business to see which ones are locked.

But often enough it turn d dark, with Russian IP-addressed hackers launching DDoS attacks and wanting a ransom paid in Bitcoin to stop them.

Angus sounds very sincere and a bit naive, but the threat is real. And from his perspective on Senate Intelligence, I'm sure he sees the methods of cyberattacks and better understands the World Cyberwar currently being waged against the United States and other countries. Intrusions our president says never happen.

Ilsa

(61,687 posts)
2. Other companies that issue
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 07:51 AM
Jul 2018

Gift cards, credit cards, etc, are getting hit, too, but less frequently.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
3. All while trump claims
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:03 AM
Jul 2018

putins a fine fellow, and after his attacks on the nuclear power plants , and telling the American people he wants better relations . trumps a liar and conspiring with putin, and allowing him to continue attacking us with no objections or consequences. This makes trump a willing agent for putin, and by not publicly denouncing this, and by not attacking him for it, it just makes it more obvious putin has trump in his pocket , and is his puppet. The republicans in Congress have now also been compromised , and will face many investigations from it after Nov. , which trump and the gop have to have a major event, or rig this upcoming election to prevent the Democrats from exposing them . We could be attacked before this upcoming election, and trump is helping them do it now.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
40. Don't forget the members of Congress
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:58 PM
Jul 2018

Over there on our largesse. Just your friendly gop repub vacation caucus over shaking hands w the Russians and attending some "How to Win in Cyber, and Get Paid Too." Seminars.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. That's pretty scary.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:03 AM
Jul 2018

Can you imagine what they can do to us with Trump's cooperation? A kind of Cyber 9/11 or something like that. Maybe right before the mid-terms? I would put nothing past the two of them.

Thanks for posting that info. Good to know.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
5. The KGOpee republicans aren't lifting a finger to defend America
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:04 AM
Jul 2018

they are just letting russia have it's way, as long as the $$$ keeps flowing to them

calimary

(81,044 posts)
56. 'Cause they want that help again.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 02:03 AM
Jul 2018

There are midterm elections to be fucked with, and they don't want to leave anything to chance. They want very desperately to stay in power. And I'll bet they realize that they're kinda up against it this fall, and probably won't do well if they have to do it themselves.

rurallib

(62,371 posts)
6. We know they have hacked into our electric grid before
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:11 AM
Jul 2018

makes you wonder if they are getting set up for a multi-pronged cyber attack in the future if Donny tries to fuck Putin over.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. trump enabled them
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:44 AM
Jul 2018

along with others in BOTH Party's and factions within those Party's and I don't forget the SARANDONS and third party candidates...Did Ocasio-Cortez vote HRC in 2016?

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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
26. Yes to Stein. Yes to Sarandon. But Ocasio-Cortez is the future
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 11:17 AM
Jul 2018

I'm with you, heaven, on Stein and Sarandon.

What is critical is that Stein and Sarandon ARE NOT remorseful. They still defend what they did.


But Ocasio-Cortez is a Democrat. And we all need to embrace her. She's is working WITHIN the Democratic party.

Listen, ditch Stein and Sarandon and criticize them. (Some of the time. Find time to focus on your own positive message too). But please do not slag a Democrat like Ocasio-Cortez.

We need to unify. Unify with us.

But Ocasio-Cortez’s victory, and her quick embrace by the Party afterward, repeated a pattern, which has been happening since the middle of the Obama years, of Democrats adopting, rather than shunning, left-wing protest movements: Occupy, Black Lives Matter, and now Sandersism. Last week, Jake Sullivan, who had been in charge of policy for Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign, wrote a long essay for the journal Democracy making the case for the Party to embrace a more radical idea of government, and a more expansive view of what voters would tolerate. “The bottom line is that Democrats should not blush too much, or pay too much heed, when political commentators arch their eyebrows about the party moving left,” Sullivan wrote. “The center of gravity itself is moving, and this is a good thing.” The images of Sanders on the campaign trail, puritanical and intent, are indelible. How weird would it be if his deepest effect is not to leave behind a popular movement but to convert the Party’s élites?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-and-the-legacy-of-the-bernie-sanders-movement

George II

(67,782 posts)
43. I believe there's a campaign finance law violation in that poster on the screen in the background...
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 03:57 PM
Jul 2018

...unless I'm mistaken it's supposed to say "Paid for by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 2018, XXXX Treasurer.

No big deal, but I've seen treasurers/campaigns fined for a simple error like that.

kag

(4,078 posts)
44. Not necessarily.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jul 2018

Different states have different laws.

I've worked as treasurer on two campaigns (in Colorado), and any expenditure could be approved by EITHER the treasurer or the candidate. It all had to be recorded and submitted on a regular basis, but I don't think there's anything in that ad that would violate the rules/laws.

dlk

(11,498 posts)
10. JP Morgan Chase Spends Over $100 Million/Year Fending Off Hackers and Thieves
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 08:56 AM
Jul 2018

Lori Beer, their global CIO was interviewed recently & that’s what she said. This is the new face of warfare and the soldiers are hackers stealing bank accounts and intellectual property.

Someone I know in banking has said hackers are breaking through 20-bit encryption. We live in a new world.

Roy Rolling

(6,905 posts)
16. Yes
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:52 AM
Jul 2018

I worked in bank online security. There's a World Cyberwar being waged against the west by Russia. The 2016 elections were our Cyber Pearl Harbor. And unlike FDR, Trump is on Russia's team.

Imagine if FDR had said of Pearl Harbor, "I'm not sure it was Japan, it could be anyone". That is Trump's response to an attack on the United States.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
52. Actually, the CONS aren't surrendering.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:00 AM
Jul 2018

They’re willing collaborators. They’re part of the team.

Remember one of the rules of solving crime and mystery. One should always ask: who benefits?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
58. Such an unfair comparison for Arnold
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 03:29 AM
Jul 2018

Arnold distinguished himself at the Capture of Fort Ticonderoga, at the Battle of Valcour Island on Lake Champlain, the Battle of Ridgefield, Connecticut (after which he was promoted to major general), relief of the Siege of Fort Stanwix, and key actions during the pivotal Battles of Saratoga in 1777, in which he suffered leg injuries that halted his combat, before he sold out his country.

Trump never distinguished himself, never put himself in danger, never got wound. He sold out the country and then went downhill from there.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. OMG.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:12 AM
Jul 2018

I don't know what I'd do if my retirement account vanished.

Are they trying to steal money? Or just crash our financial system?

mainer

(12,016 posts)
13. I know, scary isn't it? If all electronic records of our accounts vanished?
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:19 AM
Jul 2018

Sure, we may have paper copies, but crooks can mock those up, and financial institutions would need a long time to verify which paper records are real and which aren't, and in the meantime, you'll lose access to your own money.

If you think this is unlikely, just look at how hard it is to match up CHILDREN taken by ICE with their immigrant parents.

Roy Rolling

(6,905 posts)
17. Extortion is the Goal
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:54 AM
Jul 2018

The attacks on banks are to disrupt online banking for customers, damage bank records, and squeeze ransom from banks. They are an army of common criminals.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
19. Back up tapes that are stored offsite will restore your records. That is why when you
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 10:16 AM
Jul 2018

request your checking statement from a year, maybe 6 months, that it may take them a few days to get it to you. They have to retrieve a tape from offsite storage.

But also Russia has a lot of VPN sites that people all over the world use to hide where the computer operator is located. To keep away from the U.S. prying eyes. Go through a proxy server to hide where you are and who you are and you will show up as being in Russia.

So just because an IP address traces back to Russia does not mean that it is not an American trying to break into a site.

kag

(4,078 posts)
46. Yes!
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 04:40 PM
Jul 2018

Backups are your friends! And off-site storage is a must!

Thanks for pointing this out, liberalArkie.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
37. I don't get paper copies.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jul 2018

I'm signed up for electronic. I save some to my computer occasionally.

I'm going to start downloading them to my computer every month. Can't hurt. Though I bet my financial institution probably has a backup copy of everything?

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
12. Trump would outsource America's cybersecurity to Russia
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:15 AM
Jul 2018

as a way to find efficiencies and save costs. Much like he hires other people to leadership positions in agencies they have spent their entire lives fundamentally opposed to.

mainer

(12,016 posts)
14. It makes you want to hide your money under a mattress
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 09:20 AM
Jul 2018

Or at least invest it in something that can't go "poof" when electronic records go down.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,434 posts)
20. Maybe when Russia hacks their bank accounts, steals their election
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 10:21 AM
Jul 2018

from their candidate; when putin's puppet .takes their children away and holds them hostage; when it impacts them personally...then they''ll come out, take a stand. When rep. scalese was shot @at baseball practice, paul ryan was immediately at the podium on floor of congress...

paul ryan: 'An Attack on One of Us is An Attack On All of Us' yet, he doesn't mean all of us as in non white, nonchristian, lgbt,women, immigrants and refugees[/b he meant just them.

So.. unless russia, trump directly impacts their bottom line, threatens their families, their job security --then and only then will they'll take a stand. Sadly, given their lack of action and seemingly the benefactors of the coup...their silence is deafening.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
38. Excellent observations.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jul 2018

I had forgotten about the Ryan speech after Scalise was shot.

The thing is....Russia wants to protect TrumpLand, since it supports Russia's goals.

kentuck

(111,036 posts)
23. I think Angus King would be an ideal VP candidate.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 10:55 AM
Jul 2018

To appeal to the Independent voters. It would make the Democratic ticket much stronger, in my opinion.

He is a very intelligent politician.

Brother Buzz

(36,356 posts)
25. As of last month, that notion became a non starter
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 11:16 AM
Jul 2018

DNC just adopted a rule requiring candidates to run, serve as a Democrat.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
39. I like Angus King, too. Very calm, cool, informed, intelligent.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 01:39 PM
Jul 2018

Don't know a whole lot about him. He may not be interested in running for President, anyway.

mainer

(12,016 posts)
28. Angus described his role as the go-between in committees
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 11:30 AM
Jul 2018

He's the perfect person to focus opposing sides back on topic, and I'm sure he was a large part of the Intelligence Committee's being united in their report. But too often, I imagine it's like herding cats.

He would be a great President. Too bad it's logistically impossible.

DFW

(54,256 posts)
41. I've met him several times. You're right.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 02:01 PM
Jul 2018

He's sort of a more intellectual Joe Biden. Like Biden, he is very personable, even tempered, a great speaker, and wicked smart.

But after the Sanders fiasco of the 2016 primary season, no independent will be considered for a position on the ticket. On the other hand, IF Angus King were join the Democratic Party, he would do so out of conviction, not out of convenience. Once in, he would stay in.

Calista241

(5,585 posts)
24. 100 attacks a day is less than i would expect.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 10:58 AM
Jul 2018

New servers when brought online and connected to the net are usually attacked within minutes of startup. The VAST majority of these attacks are pitiful scripts though.

To run a real hack, without using a phishing or other social approach, requires highly advanced knowledge. There are a few hundred of these people in the world, and most of them are employed by companies that pay them ridiculous amounts of money to help secure their network.

Social attacks like phishing can get you into email accounts and other low risk environments, but are unlikely to get you into the truly secure portions of the bank where bank records and transaction capability are.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
55. 'Cause he wants their help again.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 02:01 AM
Jul 2018

There's another round of elections to be fucked with. Coming up in November, for starters.

keithbvadu2

(36,622 posts)
30. White House eliminates top cyber adviser post
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 11:56 AM
Jul 2018

Newer republican meme… “Russia is our friend.”
--------------
Bolton pushing to eliminate White House cyber job

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142056288

White House eliminates top cyber adviser post

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210618531

usaf-vet

(6,156 posts)
32. For generations the USAF has flown missions up and down or eastern coastline to protect....
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 12:25 PM
Jul 2018

against attacks from the then Soviet Union. Our government has realized the threat for years . Now for whatever reason we fail to see the serious threat from the continuous cyber attacks from the very same bad actors in Russia.

We realize at least as far back as the 1960 that the government NEEDED to be the protecting force. Not individuals, not states and not private businesses. Now we need the same level of shielding from this more dangerous unseen clandestine attacks or probes from the Russian state.

According multiple sources with knowledge of cyber warfare it is possible for bad players to disrupt our power gird, disrupt out telecommunication systems and disrupt our water supplies. In other words disrupt our entire infrastructure. WITHOUT firing a shot and without the use of conventional weapons.

Why is our government NOT taking this threat seriously and protecting that one bank in Maine and all other institutions within our boarders.

Forget the stupid wall to stop immigrants seeking a better life. Build protection around our entire country from cyber warfare.

THAT IS THE GOVERNMENTS JOB!

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
48. Scary stuff.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 10:01 PM
Jul 2018

On another note: Camden is absolutely BEAUTIFUL! I haven't been up in a while. I miss it.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
51. And don't forget: FDIC insured doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Sat Jul 7, 2018, 11:22 PM
Jul 2018

Now, account holders are *last* in line, behind bank investors & owners to recover their money.

You know, should someone make off with the contents of enough accounts. It's not like banks have to hold much in reserve anymore.

mainer

(12,016 posts)
59. People everywhere seem to know about our little Shangri-La!
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:05 AM
Jul 2018

Camden has only about 5,000 year-round residents, but I've met people all around the world who know about this town.

TrogL

(32,818 posts)
60. That's nothing new
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:48 AM
Jul 2018

I subbed for the security analyst at a place I worked at five years ago that was partially financial. The firewall logs were full of attacks by Russia, the 'stans and Chinese script kiddies.

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