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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:27 AM Jul 2018

There was collusion, There is collusion, There will be more collusion!

There were so many extraordinary occurrences that took place with respect to the Brexit referendum in Great Britain and the United States presidential election, that taken as a whole, simply cannot be coincidences. First and foremost both events ultimately were determined in a manner which was advantageous to Vladimir Putin. Second, both Brexit and the U.S. election featured Cambridge Analytica and its founders Robert and Rebekah Mercer as key players. Cambridge Analytica harvested over 50Million Facebook files and interfaced with members of the Trump campaign and Russian bots that showed up in crucial rust belt states masquerading as politically aware next door neighbors. Now yet another piece in the puzzle of Russian dominion over the two elections is fitting into place. UK financier Aaron Banks financed Brexit with the largest donation in British history after he just happened to have been offered a “sweetheart” deal on Russian gold and diamond mining projects which were only offered to a “restricted number of investors.” New York Magazine:

In both countries, the right-wing pro-Russian populists indignantly insist there is no more incriminating information to be found beyond what was known at any given moment, even as the bounds of what is known at any moment continues to expand. In Britain, billionaire businessman Arron Banks financed the Brexit referendum with the largest donation in British history. Initially, he copped to having one meeting with Russian officials. After the Guardian obtained secret documents blowing up this claim, he admitted there were actually three meetings. Now the Times has even more information, and Banks concedes the number of covert meetings has grown to four. [...]

Banks’s defense of his behavior to the Times is so absurdly suspicious it almost reads like a winking, dada joke: “The idea that things were dangled as some sort of carrots for me to be involved with the Russians is very far-fetched,” he said. “I wonder what the Russians wanted from me?” What they wanted was perfectly obvious: Banks funded a political referendum in which Russia had a strong interest in passing. Russia could not directly finance the referendum, but Banks could. Therefore, what they would want is for him to use some of the money they were dangling before him to support Brexit, which he did. At this point, it seems virtually certain that Russia did use Banks, perhaps in conjunction with Mellon, as a pass through to covertly finance the Brexit referendum.

‪NY Mag: The British Russian Collusion Scandal Is Breaking Wide Open

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2018/7/2/1777274/-NY-Mag-The-British-Russian-Collusion-Scandal-Is-Breaking-Wide-Open‬

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There was collusion, There is collusion, There will be more collusion! (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jul 2018 OP
This reminds me of a conjugation exercise. Baitball Blogger Jul 2018 #1
will Britain be able to undo the damage? n/t Horse with no Name Jul 2018 #2
I think not AZ8theist Jul 2018 #5
That seems to be the best solution Horse with no Name Jul 2018 #6
I couldn't agree more.... DonaldsRump Jul 2018 #3
Putin wants to fracture the Western alliance by fracturing the Western countries from within dalton99a Jul 2018 #4

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
1. This reminds me of a conjugation exercise.
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:46 AM
Jul 2018

Trump colluded, Trump has colluded, Trump colludes and Trump will collude in the future.

AZ8theist

(5,445 posts)
5. I think not
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:16 PM
Jul 2018

Not , at least, until MILLIONS of British citizens are horribly damaged by the consequences of Brexit. Perhaps only then will they realize the mistake of this breakup. I've been reading a lot of British press lately and it seems May's gov't can't even come up with a working system or framework on how to implement Brexit. There are so many issues to contend with it seems impossible.

Seems to me, as a Yank, that what would work best for England is to have another referendum on leaving the EU. I think a now better educated populace would vote differently this time. And with the controversy surrounding the Russian involvement with funding the original vote (and subsequent nerve gassing atrocities) this would be a very welcome middle finger to Putin.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
6. That seems to be the best solution
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 12:29 PM
Jul 2018

I wasn't sure about if they could have a re-do on the election since it was apparently tainted (as was ours--but we don't have a constitutional remedy).

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
3. I couldn't agree more....
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jul 2018

There is one person who stands to benefit from a divided USA, a fragmented European Union, Brexit, and increased "populism" (i.e. nascent fascism) in spots throughout the world: Vladimir Putin.

For those worrying about the increase in fascism, I had a thought: we have the MAGAT-in-Chief who is actively fomenting unrest in places like the EU. As far as I'm aware, this is the first time in recent decades that we have a President who is fighting to disrupt world order rather than to maintain it. This, plus Vlad's string-pulling, is greatly exacerbating the unrest we are seeing.

That the Idiot-in-Chief's only real statement in relation to the recent G7 meeting is that Russia should be invited back in is merely the latest in the obvious puppeteering by Putin.

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