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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 07:47 PM Jul 2018

How does the Glass Cliff work? Look at the UK right now.

Every man who was a Brexiteer is fleeing the government like rats off the Titanic. And May, who was pretty vocally Remain, is left to actually implement this bullshit idea she doesn't even believe in.

Yeah, that's way too familiar from the business world, too, frankly.

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How does the Glass Cliff work? Look at the UK right now. (Original Post) Recursion Jul 2018 OP
The Brits don't have Turbineguy Jul 2018 #1
Yes but it's complicated sharedvalues Jul 2018 #2
Corbyn supported Remain. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #3
OK, Corbyn sharedvalues Jul 2018 #4

Turbineguy

(37,206 posts)
1. The Brits don't have
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 07:50 PM
Jul 2018

the republican party. They have people who have figured out they've been flim-flammed by Putin.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
2. Yes but it's complicated
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:33 PM
Jul 2018

- The Brits DO have right-wing propaganda, financed by none other than Rupert Murdoch who is destroying America.
- The Conservatives in the UK have worked on muzzling the BBC, which was formerly very fair and truthful.
- Corbyn is great on some issues but in his past he was a communist sympathizer and perhaps still has some affinity for Russia. Plus he's a Brexiteer.
- May's coalition requires keeping Brexiters. So she is trying to hold everyone together.
- Only the Guardian has been covering the Russia-Brexit story, and the rest of the UK media (see Murdoch, BBC muzzling) has kept it quiet. Brexit-Russia only hit the big time when the Guardian reporter published a story a few months ago in the NY Times!
- May seems to be afraid of losing Russian laundered money into London. Because she's afraid to confront Russia, notably on the military chemical weapons the Russians used.


The UK has strange politics that I don't claim to completely understand. But they're not just going to quickly turn around Brexit. If anyone else has insight please share.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
3. Corbyn supported Remain.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 07:56 AM
Jul 2018

You say he's a Brexiteer. If you mean that, with Brexit having won in the referendum, Corbyn thinks that the result (however unpleasant) should be honored, in accordance with the rules, that may be correct; I don't know. What I do know is that I would be opposed to a military coup to oust Donald Trump but that doesn't make me a Trump supporter.

What counts is where Corbyn stood during the referendum campaign. What he said then was:

We, the Labour Party, are overwhelmingly for staying in, because we believe the European Union has brought investment, jobs and protection for workers, consumers and the environment.


Source: "Jeremy Corbyn says 'overwhelming case' for staying in EU"

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
4. OK, Corbyn
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:46 PM
Jul 2018

This Cadwalladr tweet captures some of the Corbyn stuff.
He's now out loud pro-Brexit. It's like he's afraid to stand up to May, as seen in PMQs.



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