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ancianita

(35,932 posts)
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:38 AM Jul 2018

I can't with the coping humor. Americans have got to get ready AF.

Social media people are vivacious in their humor, likening this to a "second civil war" and an "olympian battle into which Hercules/Mueller will save the day!" laughingly calling each other truth sayers and soothsayers. UGH.

It hurts me to read all this.
Maybe I need to take a break, go have a stiff drink.
Lord knows, I've taken to smoking again.

But before I stop reading all the coping humor around here, I want to say this:

1.
Don't get to joking about this situation.
Don't get your hopes up.
Don't entertain fantasies.

Sure, there's a Lawyer Civil War going on out there. (We can even define the legal teams, which I myself call the constitutional v the corporate teams.)

Don't underestimate the Koch machine and its corporate adherents to minority rule -- their goal since the 70's.

Now, two, and soon three branches will serve as the Fifth Column for a fossil fuel Russian mafia. Together, two nations' oligarchs and their pretties are about to take control of all three branches of a democratic republic. Many of their bagmen have become conscience stricken and resigned to save their asses and souls.

2.
The likely reality:

The Mueller final report and indictments will not at all end a congressional party that refuses to impeach.
The solicitor general's case for The People will lose in a SCOTUS that may not allow the indictment of a president, the consequence being that a criminal boss president pardons himself, his family and his syndicate.

Constitutional Law and order will not be enforced.
Constitutional Law will then be beside the point.
Moot.

3.
Just because the FBI has all the evidence of collusion and conspiracy to commit treason, and just because the FBI will make the case -- just because they and We The People are in the Right -- given the current structure of party power, it doesn't mean The Constitution will win.

4.
There's always the US military. Would it, could it step up and take over to preserve the Constitution? As privately outsourced and mercenary as it's become, that solution is in doubt. Then there are the gun humpers.

The International Criminal Court won't be able to do anything, since this country is not a signatory.

After Cuba and Venezuela, the US will become Russia's third western satellite. I'd rather welcome Chinese overlords.

5.
I knew when Obama said "The end of the Republic never looked better," that he wasn't joking. The correspondents at the WH dinner knew it, too.

That's why the coping humor hurts.

Because Americans have got to get ready.

6.
I don't want to be correct.

I just want Americans to get the fuck out and vote out this Congress in November.

I want to wake up bored with my government because it's doing what it's supposed to do for the greatest number, here and abroad.

Cigarette break time...


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EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
1. Vote vote vote!
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:43 AM
Jul 2018

And you're not going to be bored with the government till 2028 at the absolute EARLIEST.

This is a national crisis. And we need to vote. And it's still not going to be fast.

FirstLight

(13,355 posts)
3. Indeed...
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:53 AM
Jul 2018

Dark times ahead, I'm afraid. It's never looked so fucking crazy and bleak. It's like they are blatantly taking the Consitution and burning it live on TV every day.

I'm drinking more, for sure. And while just trying to survive my own day to day I am feeling evermore powerless. Protesting and voting are our last hopes...and yet I see it as to standing like the lone student in front of the tanks at Tienamen Square.

Smoke break, indeed....

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
4. Glad I'm not alone in this. Bleak. A good word. But fucking "VOTE!" is the other one.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 01:03 AM
Jul 2018

Coping humor is just wasted energy.

We really have to tighten up the Democratic Party game.

This shit's so serious I don't know if I'm up for it.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
7. You assume that the US will stay unified.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 01:30 AM
Jul 2018

If the November election is stolen, it will not.

Think former Yugoslavia, times 20.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
8. Military ain't gonna have it. We're not Yugoslavia, its people or military. But disunited? Oh yeah.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 01:33 AM
Jul 2018

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
9. I doubt there will be a military coup d'etat.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 01:56 AM
Jul 2018

If we were going to have one, it should have happened by now. Nor will it be able to keep order if all hell breaks loose.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
10. I did make your point, but for different reasons, in the OP.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:17 AM
Jul 2018

Last edited Tue Jul 10, 2018, 01:22 PM - Edit history (1)

On the other hand, we're not lawyers or Pentagon brass, and conditions might not have had sufficient proof to justify such a move. There's a reason military have been in the WH since Trump's arrival. Two generals. So there's that.

Jury's out on the military's ability to keep domestic order.

How it's keeping order for DHS, ICE and CBP border patrol might be one clue.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
13. Crazy days we live in, my friend...crazy days.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jul 2018


Be well and take time away when u can get it.

I do.
 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
14. A fractured country would be a huge mess
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jul 2018

And, unfortunately, most blue areas would fare a lot worse I am afraid. Dense urban areas are far less resilient and able to self sustain than rural area.

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