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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 08:02 PM Jul 2018

Only 40% of Deplorables, i.e. Republicans believe we should stay in NATO








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This is not your father's Republican Party. An Economist/YouGov survey conducted July 1-3 finds that only 40% of Republicans think we should stay in NATO while 56% of Republicans think Donald Trump's relationship with Vladimir Putin is a good thing for the United States.

12:31 PM - 6 Jul 2018
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Only 40% of Deplorables, i.e. Republicans believe we should stay in NATO (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 OP
NATO isn't just a goodwill gesture for Americans.. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #1
The Soviet Union? Most of that is NATO now, Russia is alone and we aren't facing 7 Airborne braddy Jul 2018 #8
You know what I mean. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #12
The numbers still apply, Russia is now small and outnumbered, out navied, out aired, out manned and braddy Jul 2018 #13
So what's your point? Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #14
You said we are facing the Soviet empire, you need to update your military information. braddy Jul 2018 #16
its all the same to me. ty though. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #18
I accept that as an accurate description. braddy Jul 2018 #19
Right on. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #20
I doubt if 60% of republicans even know what NATO is about. CatMor Jul 2018 #2
The Republican Party have always been a bunch authoritarian followers. octoberlib Jul 2018 #3
LOL, isn't this a internet polling? Iliyah Jul 2018 #4
these folks have been brainwashed ... spanone Jul 2018 #5
They hate the UN too lunasun Jul 2018 #6
That is due to the influence of Fox News. Sophia4 Jul 2018 #7
If Obama said I want to be friends w Russia or leave NATo JDC Jul 2018 #9
The US no longer remains the hegemonic state, the military gets gutted by 60% as no need for them. TheBlackAdder Jul 2018 #10
If only Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #15
Hells Bells they just believe what they're told to believe Saboburns Jul 2018 #11
"I fucking despise these people. " DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #17
That same group will basically support whatever Trump tells them to support Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2018 #21

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
1. NATO isn't just a goodwill gesture for Americans..
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 08:07 PM
Jul 2018

NATO is a realistic buffer to the Soviet Union for the Western Allies. That includes the USA. They are on the "front" we are in the rear of the battlefield. Regardless, NATO works to protect us too.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
8. The Soviet Union? Most of that is NATO now, Russia is alone and we aren't facing 7 Airborne
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 09:09 PM
Jul 2018

Divisions and 6.4 million active troops and 8.3 million Reserves, 69,000 tanks, divisions of bridge building units, and more than 11,000 aircraft.

I support NATO but let's not go overboard with fearing Russia, NATO needs backbone more than anything, NATO is deliberately making themselves weak and unprepared.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/03/27/how-scary-is-putins-russia-compared-to-the-soviet-union-this-chart-has-some-answers/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a23d5986b3d9

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
13. The numbers still apply, Russia is now small and outnumbered, out navied, out aired, out manned and
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 11:09 PM
Jul 2018

outgunned with most of the Warsaw pact aiming at it, even countries like Sweden are rearming and starting the draft, they fear that the European NATO countries have gone soft on paying the cost of maintaining their militaries and confronting Russia. Russia can only nibble at the little counties with bluff and guff and limited engagement, they cannot defeat NATO on paper.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
14. So what's your point?
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 11:18 PM
Jul 2018

russia swayed our elections...that's more than the fragile flower you portray of russiar. Poor russiar.

JDC

(10,125 posts)
9. If Obama said I want to be friends w Russia or leave NATo
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 09:14 PM
Jul 2018

Wonder what the numbers would be? These people are the biggest suckers on the planet.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
11. Hells Bells they just believe what they're told to believe
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 10:27 PM
Jul 2018

If they were told tomorrow to support NATO then they would quickly change their minds.

These people have no independent thought. None.

They don't read, anything, are incurious, and mostly ignorant (as in not having been exposed to information) have never travelled abroad, nor want to.

They are who we thought they were.

We have always known these types were among us. We are just fucking amazed that we have so many. Not a majority mind you, but near enough of one third of us. And they are so loud. Proudly ignorant, loudly ignorant.

I fucking despise these people.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
21. That same group will basically support whatever Trump tells them to support
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jul 2018

If, tomorrow, Trump tells them that puppies are bad, they'll agree with him and start kicking puppies (see also: Immigrants, legal or otherwise).

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