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Miles Archer

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Tue Jul 10, 2018, 11:35 PM Jul 2018

Mike Pompeo successfully lowers bar for NK denuclearization 20,000 leagues below whale excrement



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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says getting North Korea to dismantle its nuclear and missile programs will be a "decades-long" challenge https://cnn.it/2zmXfUl


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Mike Pompeo successfully lowers bar for NK denuclearization 20,000 leagues below whale excrement (Original Post) Miles Archer Jul 2018 OP
"The World's Best Negotiator" ... NanceGreggs Jul 2018 #1
Mission Accomplished version 2.0 Saboburns Jul 2018 #2
North Korea state media suggests Kim Jong Un skipped talks with Pompeo to visit potato farm Cha Jul 2018 #3
When Kim Yong Chol was at the White House in early June soryang Jul 2018 #4
But, but John Bolton said it would be done within a year! sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #5

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
1. "The World's Best Negotiator" ...
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 11:44 PM
Jul 2018

... pictured here with Donald Trump.

Listening to the GOP pundits on TV tonight was beyond entertaining - watching them try to spin Trump getting played into some monumental achievement was gut-busting hilarious!

Saboburns

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2. Mission Accomplished version 2.0
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 11:52 PM
Jul 2018

Who could have ever for seen that a 6 hour PR photo op wouldn't have actually solved the problem>

soryang

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4. When Kim Yong Chol was at the White House in early June
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 01:37 AM
Jul 2018

Trump told him that the US would consider an announcement to end the Korean conflict. This falls in the category of CVIG which is the term Pompeo came up with, complete verifiable irreversible guarantee (of North Korean security). When Pompeo was meeting with Chol in Pyongyang, he blew off the proposal of such an announcement and went strictly with his allegedly new formula FFVD, which is only a superficial name change for what is essentially a unilateral ultimatum to denuclearize.

Pompeo seems to have retreated from his CVIG position, when he knows there won't be any denuclearization without dealing with the security guarantee issues. Who would give up their nukes without the security guarantees? Without CVIG you won't get CVID.



The political side of the problem is that any phased structure with reciprocity will arguably appear similar in design to other agreements that both Trump and neocons had earlier criticized.

The central issues are still the same. The core issue is still one bundle versus step by step, and the timing of reciprocal measures by the US. We're back to Song Kim's position as reported by the South Korean media on May 29, give up all warheads, fissile materials, and ICBMs, first for a piece of paper after its done.

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