Special Counsel's Office says Manafort has been surreptitiously sending emails from jail

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Special Counsel's Office says Manafort has been surreptitiously sending emails from jail...

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4594533/7-11-18-US-Oppo-Manafort-Motion-to-Continue.pdf …

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[Vinca]

1. The judge is going to love that one. LOL.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

2. Wow. Shades of the old bulletin boards. I hope he has a 14.4K baud rate. NT

[Blue_Adept]

3. oh fuck this guy.

He's going to have to be stripped of everything and tossed into a dark hole never to be seen again. If he survives anything and makes it out into the real world again he'll find a way to cause a lot of trouble.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

26. Right on.

[dameatball]

54. Maybe it is wishful thinking, but it is possible he doesn't think he will get out...nothing to lose

[mercuryblues]

4. WTF

Now his lawyers are involved in covering up his crimes. This guy is unbelievable.

[CloudWatcher]

14. I'm not a lawyer, but ...

Shouldn't this behavior by his lawyers lead to their disbarment?

[Sanity Claws]

36. Yes but are they participants?

I was thinking about how he did this. Could he have hit send on the email while the laptop was in his possession but it didn’t send because there was no internet connection? Later the attorneys opened the laptop and it connected to the internet. The email was then sent without the attorneys’ participation or knowledge.

[LiberalArkie]

43. Yep he composed and pressed send. As soon as the laptop got wifi. Bam they were gone.

Just like sending a text message and then realize you have no bars.

[Hav]

63. I'm thinking about how he could do it without their knowledge

He wouldn't be able to access an online portal to write mails with his own personal e-mail.
If he is using a client he can use offline, then surely his lawyers must be aware of it because someone had to install it. I think the local client I use would only send the e-mail if I start the application again and after providing credentials.

[mercuryblues]

40. It could

If Manafort is using the lawyer's laptop to conspire to commit or further a crime, they are equally as guilty in the conspiracy.

from the story Manafort is using the lawyer's lap top to receive and send emails. He is using the attorney/client privilege to smuggle out (for lack of a better term) correspondence he does not want Mueller to see. His attorney should know better.

My question is, can Mueller subpoena it?

[Sanity Claws]

45. Criminal guilt requires intent

If you are claiming criminal negligence, then the prosecutor is equally guilty. After all, the prosecutor permitted Manafort to have a phone and laptop while being held.

[mercuryblues]

48. He is not using his lap top

He is using one supplied by his attorney.

Although the jail does not allow prisoners to send or receive emails, Manafort appears to have developed a workaround. Manafort has revealed on the monitored phone calls that in order to exchange emails, he reads and composes emails on a second laptop that is shuttled in and out of the facility by his team. When the team takes the laptop from the jail, it reconnects to the internet and Manafort’s emails are transmitted.

What is in those emails, he wants to keep Mueller from finding out, by using a smuggled in lap top?

The attorney downloads emails onto the hard drive. Goes to visit Manafort and hands the lap top over to him. Manafort drafts the replies. When the attorney leaves the prison, he sends the emails out. I'd say that is intent.

[kag]

49. Here's my question.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to surreptitiously smuggle emails out of your prison cell, and then "allude" to those emails in phone calls that you must know are being monitored?

Am I missing something, or is he the dumbfuckingest criminal mastermind on the planet?

[mercuryblues]

57. IKR

He is using a smuggled email setup to avoid the phone recordings, then mentions it during a phone call.

I mentioned this before. Manafort is rich. He is used to other people doing his dirty work. He tosses them money, tells them to fix it. He never learned how to cover his own tracks. Now that he has to, he ain't got a fucking clue how to. He doesn't have a paid lackey to remind him of these trivial matters.

He has an over inflated ego. He thinks that he is too important and wealthy for little things like prison recordings to trip him up. Bless his heart.

[YessirAtsaFact]

42. Also not a lawyer, but it sounds like criminal behavior to me

[ashling]

60. they can start with contempt of court and a HEFTY fine

plus a referral to the bar board for appropriate consideration...then disbarred



true Lawyer story: New atty. got to the courtroom after the clerk had called his name for the third time - actually just as the clerk was calling his name. Judge held him in contempt of court and set a $50 fine and said: "Sheriff, don't let this man leave the courthouse without paying $50."

I was the new atty.

[Cosmocat]

69. i caught a bit on this yesterday

and the impressions I got is that the judge might give this a pass, and let all of the "VIP" treatment ride to make sure there is absolutely nothing they can try to point to WHEN they try to appeal that he was not given enough opportunity to mount his defense.

As much as it burns my ass, this is not new with him, apparently there have been other big name people who have been treated the same way there.

It isn't right, but different rules ...

[Maraya1969]

5. He is really incorrigible isn't he?

What kind of personality type is he?

[triron]

7. Trumpian

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. Republicon-Narcissist, of which tRump is the leading example. . . . nt

[kentuck]

6. What a scofflaw !

This guy breaks all the rules !

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

27. Shades of Seinfeld.

And they were terrified of a civil infraction or misdemeanor.

[gohuskies]

8. Audacity and arrogance are going to get ole Manny

Unbelievable that he thinks he can continue to pull the wool over the Special Counsel's eyes. Then he has his army of legal suits claiming he is being treated unfairly... He and the rest of the corrupt Dumpy cabal need to be locked up permanently. Aside from his nefarious financial activities, the worst of his offenses is treason.

[Delphinus]

51. Sure

hope you are right. My god, they are all bad.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

9. Check this out from the government's brief

Isn't it about time we started treating him like every other defendant. Or is that just for ordinary people.

Among the unique privileges Manafort enjoys at the jail are a private, self-contained living unit, which is larger than other inmates’ units, his own bathroom and shower facility, his own personal telephone, and his own workspace to prepare for trial. Manafort is also not required to wear a prison uniform. On the monitored prison phone calls, Manafort has mentioned that he is being treated like a
“VIP.”

[triron]

12. Except his crimes are probably far worse than most. That means he gets special treatment??

Why hasn't he flipped anyway?

[Thrill]

23. Trump already promised

Him a pardon. He’s not likely to, as long as he keeps getting special treatment in there

[renate]

46. I think it must be because he's worried about his family's safety

Maybe he's happy to go to prison for the rest of his life if not flipping keeps his family alive.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

17. And access to e-mail apparently?

Lock him up! Oh, wait a minute.......

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

30. Hang tight comrade....

you're moving real soon.
Must be private contractor guards, hopefully not ex Blackwater...they'll be keistering all manner of contraband to him.

[SeattleVet]

58. Yet the wingnuts are screaming about him being 'tortured with solitary'.

Nobody told them that it's a suite with better amenities than some vacation condos we've stayed in!

[NewJeffCT]

10. I guess he has no fear of committing more crime

WTF Manafort?

[lame54]

11. Nevertheless, he persisted

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

31. Thats funny.

Hahahaha.

[Leghorn21]

13. But waaaiiit, he KNOWS his phone calls are monitored, doesn't he, so why would he reveal

his sneaky method of emailing on a monitored phone call?

Meh, weird, all of this, carry on Mr. Mueller & Co!!!

[FakeNoose]

16. Mueller probably wants to see the emails

...maybe he'll give away something good!

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

32. Or the software/domains etc he uses to skip over the regular security.

[blogslut]

15. OMG This fucking guy!

I'm with Chait. I think Manafort's convinced somebody's trying to kill him.

[GeorgeGist]

24. Putin probably.

Manafort knows too much.

[Hekate]

19. Wow, he's good at what he does, isn't he?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. He has a two room suite, a personal phone, and a laptop at all times.

Doesn't every prisoner with bail revoked get these privileges? Manafort isn't exceptional, is he?

From the tweet:

[Historic NY]

29. He living better than Al Capone....

[link:|]

[Leghorn21]

21. As usual, I don't know what the hell is going on, but SpicyFiles just posted this:

Judge is P I S S E D
That footnote, help I’ve rolled out of my office chair and I am stuck under my desk
Manafort Motion: DENIED
Welcome to ADD Paul..now be a good boy and follow the US Marshals to the transport Van


Gawd Judge Ellis is running on full Octane today

NEW order re Manafort’s motion to change venue to WDVA
Bad move Paul, you’ve done pissed him off.
I’ll pray for you because pissing off a Judge is epically stupid.
R’amen pic.twitter.com/Zai8VOFgMQ

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[HAB911]

28. I think he is making him move to Arlington as first requested?

[Leghorn21]

33. I promise you, I have no clue, HAB! My only hope, as usual, is that Manafort is having a

really shitty day!!

[Leghorn21]

39. SURE IS, HAB! "..professionals...very familiar with housing...foreign and domestic terrorists,

spies and traitors”

HOLY SHIT


Judge denies Manafort request to not be moved to the Alexandria Detention Center.

"The professionals at the Alexandria Detention Center are very familiar with housing high-profile defendants including foreign and domestic terrorists, spies and traitors."

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[HAB911]

41. +++++++++++

[bdamomma]

22. I guess he is planning

to stay in contempt for a long time. I am hoping for his sentence to be publicized soon.

[Pepsidog]

25. First rule of criminal defense, don't piss off the judge, especially a federal judge with a lifetime

appointment to the bench. Paul maybe having his fun now but in legal circles there is something called a “trial tax”. What is that? Well if you decide to try your case in front of a jury you better win because if you are found guilty the Court will most certainly make an example of you. For example, look at Martha Stewart, Leona Helmsley, Mike Vick all of whom were made examples by receiving prison terms. Manafort is playing with fire. I wonder if the Feds held a source hearing for his attorney fees

[Delmette2.0]

52. What is a "source hearing for attorney fees"?

Is that when he has to prove how he is paying his attorney?

[Pepsidog]

65. Often in RICO or drug cases the defendant has to show that bail money is being paid from

clean money, not money that was procured through criminal activity. Prevents defendants from using ill-gotten gains for his bail .

[Delmette2.0]

66. Thank you!

Manafort might have a difficult time doing that.

[lindysalsagal]

34. But. Her. Emails.

[dalton99a]

35. Sneaky bastard thinks he's so smart

[riversedge]

37. Manafort should be tossed in the regular population of the jail so he gets a taste of real

jail time-with no special privileges!!

[dembotoz]

38. wouldn't members of his defense team be in hot water too?

to aid in the circumvention of the judges wishes?

[marble falls]

44. He'll get a real jail this time. Does he really think cheetolini is going to bail him out?

[OnDoutside]

47. If Mueller knows what he was doing, then surely he must know what is in

the emails ?

[Delphinus]

50. Incredible.

Hope he gets his privileges taken away.

[McCamy Taylor]

53. Ooops. Sounds like time for some solitary to me.

[Phoenix61]

55. What a magoo

He thought complaining about the distance would help get the trial moved. Smarty pants judge moved him instead. Hope he enjoys his new digs.

[Renew Deal]

56. lol. Lock them all up

[Lee-Lee]

59. Do you want to piss off your judge? Because that is how you really piss off your judge

[Bayard]

61. Put him in a cage

Complete with tin foil blanket, no access to phone, attorney, or family.

[Danascot]

67. ... and lice

Don't forget the lice.

[McCamy Taylor]

62. Trying to contact witnesses is what got his thrown into jail, correct?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/politics/paul-manafort-mueller-witness-tampering.html

States need to go forward with indictments that Trump can not pardon.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

64. Keep moving him to different states and we can have a raft of state charges for trying to contact

witnesses.

[forgotmylogin]

68. Sounds like his laptop needs to be replaced

with a legal pad and some crayons. No sharp objects.

[ananda]

70. Dirty lawyers breaking the law ..

.. and getting away with it.

What else is new in Reep Putin Land.

[SunSeeker]

71. K & R for exposure.