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malaise

(267,808 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:40 PM Jul 2018

In that press conference this morning Don the Con said his father was born in Germany

That is a lie. Fred Trump was born in the Bronx, New York. Further his father would not have been granted German citizenship because his grandfather was banished for draft dodging. Why does he lie about everything?

He also said that both his parents were EU citizens. His mother was Born in Scotland but there was no EU at that time.

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In that press conference this morning Don the Con said his father was born in Germany (Original Post) malaise Jul 2018 OP
That. Man. Is. An. Idiot. nolabear Jul 2018 #1
But why does he lie about things that can be checked so easily? malaise Jul 2018 #3
It's part of the pathology. He can get away with it. nolabear Jul 2018 #9
In a nutshell......he can lie all he wants BECAUSE NO ONE CALLS HIM ON IT. a kennedy Jul 2018 #17
Perzackly. They even protect him from consequences. nolabear Jul 2018 #19
Absolutely. And when they do, his support shrug their shoulders. 33taw Jul 2018 #20
He assumes his knuckledragger base won't check, but will believe The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #27
If his mouth is moving, he's lying. Vinca Jul 2018 #2
Can we see his Father's immigration papers? I think we need to deport Donald. 33taw Jul 2018 #4
He wants them to think he's a hometown boy. lol SummerSnow Jul 2018 #5
That was my understanding as well. So now he's saying that BOTH of his parents were immigrants ecstatic Jul 2018 #6
Just saw that the Media caught him as well malaise Jul 2018 #11
Ok, so his dad was an "anchor baby." ecstatic Jul 2018 #21
Yep malaise Jul 2018 #23
My sister lies like this The Blue Flower Jul 2018 #7
Alternate facts, baby! nolabear Jul 2018 #10
there was no EU at that time is correct. bdamomma Jul 2018 #8
'Don the Con' the once 'proud German-American', has changed his tune on the land of his forefathers malaise Jul 2018 #13
Because atreides1 Jul 2018 #15
He lies because no one challenges him on it in real time. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2018 #12
I agree malaise Jul 2018 #14
Chump is a pathological liar. gademocrat7 Jul 2018 #16
don doesn't even read wikipedia....his father's birthplace is right there. spanone Jul 2018 #18
I don't think using Wikipedia as always factual is a very good idea. virgogal Jul 2018 #29
When Trump's mother was born canetoad Jul 2018 #22
The Holcroft Covenant Captain_New_York Jul 2018 #24
Interesting n/t malaise Jul 2018 #25
Lying? A common trait with NPD davekriss Jul 2018 #26
sociopath, narcissist, compulsive liar.And it doesn't phase him. As long as he is the center of attn snowy owl Jul 2018 #28
He lies so often, I truly believe he doesn't know he's lying half the time Va Lefty Jul 2018 #30

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
1. That. Man. Is. An. Idiot.
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jul 2018

Worse yet, he’s a lying, thriving idiot. And he can’t seem to perceive that anyone can simply quote facts back at him. I suppose it’s all the symbiotic relationship between him and the remora.

malaise

(267,808 posts)
3. But why does he lie about things that can be checked so easily?
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:47 PM
Jul 2018

Is it to impress people?
This is a stupid lie.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
9. It's part of the pathology. He can get away with it.
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jul 2018

It’s that simple. He gets away with it. He’s so important he can, like a king, proclaim reality and the peasants have to agree, particularly when the governmental minions all agree that, as my sweet old grandmother would say, his shit don’t stink.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,276 posts)
27. He assumes his knuckledragger base won't check, but will believe
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 06:48 PM
Jul 2018

whatever crap he spouts. This particular lie was probably intended to make it look like he has this lovely family connection to the EU countries so why are they being so mean to me? The fact that his grandfather, not his father, was born in Germany (Trump once claimed his grandfather was Swedish), and that the EU didn't exist when his mother was born or when she emigrated, is irrelevant, as is the fact that his lie can be easily disproved by the people who live in the reality-based world, not up Trump's ass.

ecstatic

(32,566 posts)
6. That was my understanding as well. So now he's saying that BOTH of his parents were immigrants
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jul 2018

but he wants to scale back the immigration system that allowed him to be here?

malaise

(267,808 posts)
11. Just saw that the Media caught him as well
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/trump-says-his-father-was-from-germany/2018/07/12/2dce952c-85dc-11e8-9e06-4db52ac42e05_video.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e5ce38d91a70<snip>

At a news conference in Brussels July 12, President Trump told reporters, “My father was from Germany.” Frederick Christ Trump was born in New York months after his parents immigrated from Germany.


The Blue Flower

(5,419 posts)
7. My sister lies like this
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jul 2018

When I confronted her about it, she said, "Well, it's my truth." It's what he wants to believe at the moment because he thinks it will work for him. Does he believe his own words? Does my sister? Who knows?

malaise

(267,808 posts)
13. 'Don the Con' the once 'proud German-American', has changed his tune on the land of his forefathers
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 02:04 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/11/donald-trump-proud-german-american-has-changed-tune-land-forefathers/

Donald Trump, who launched a tirade of criticism against Germany at Wednesday's Nato summit, has not always been so hostile towards the country.

Only a few years ago he was touting it as the land of his forefathers.

“I have great German heritage. I’m very proud of it. Great place,” he told a documentary about the village of Kallstadt, in western Germany, where his grandfather, Frederick Trump, was born and lived until he emigrated to the US as a teenager.

In 1999, Mr Trump served as Grand Marshal of the annual German-American parade in New York City. And in 2011 he recorded a video message for the event in which he said: “I’m a proud German-American”.

But the story of his German heritage is complicated. Until the 1980s, Mr Trump maintained that his grandfather came from Sweden.

That’s the version of the story in his book, The Art of the Deal, and he told it so many times that at one point the city of Karlstadt in Sweden was considering founding a museum in his honour.

atreides1

(16,046 posts)
15. Because
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 02:07 PM
Jul 2018

He knows that his base is as stupid as he is! They'll never question anything he says or does...his base will always jump to his defense, women will defend his attacks against other women, the few people of color that worship him will defend his attacks on other people of color, and the white men will rally to his cause, especially if it means they might get the chance to do what followers of tyrants have done throughout history...kill in the name of their orange faced Lord and Master!!!

12. He lies because no one challenges him on it in real time.
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:58 PM
Jul 2018

I've only seen one reporter do it. He directly asked Trump how he could keep claiming to have had the biggest electoral victory when so many others had had larger ones. The reporter then proceeded to name off a half dozen presidents -- Bush, Obama, Reagan, etc. IQ45 was dancing all over the place trying to worm his way out of that one -- "Well, that is what I've been told..."

I'd pay Big Bucks to see that happen every time he gets in front of a group of reporters. "Why are you lying about asylum seekers breaking the law?" "Why do you keep lying about how tariffs benefit regular Americans, when they're just another sales tax?" "Why do you lie about Melania being here legally? Did she take the citizenship test? Where do we find her naturalization papers?" "Why do you lie about not being able to release your tax returns because they're being audited when your own IRS says an audit does not prevent you from doing so?" "Why do you lie about the size of your inauguration?" "Why do you lie about not wanting a Nobel for your meeting with Kim Yung Un?" "Why do you lie about hiring only the best people when so many in you administration have resigned in disgrace?"

"Why do you lie about Russia having nothing to do with the 2016 election?"

And on, and on...

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