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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWording of today's indictment.
It reads like legal mumbo-jumbo but there is an interesting phrase in today's indictment. The indictment repeatedly alleges actions by "the Conspirators." "The Conspirators" is defined as the listed Russian GRU officers and "persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury." That expression is what lawyers call "boiler plate." Boiler plate often doesn't mean anything but sometimes it does.
It's clear to everyone that the reference in Paragraph 44 of the indictment to an e-mail sent to the GRU was sent by Roger Stone. The indictment alleges the e-mail was sent by "the Conspirators." Ergo, Roger Stone is one of "the Conspirators." At this point, Roger Stone is an unindicted co-conspirator.
That makes me wonder which other "persons known . . . to the Grand Jury" are also unindicted co-conspirators. I can think of any number of people who ought to be concerned.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)TomSlick
(11,092 posts)Interesting times - huh?
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Finally a break from the momentum.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)DOJ policy discourages extended sealed indictments and courts frown on them.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)I don't know enough to say. I thought about a month ago (30 years in trum years), they were saying he has them as an option and they remain secret. Thanks for the info. Good evening Maryandblue.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)I am sure Mueller has many indictments written and ready for signature.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)It's such a relief to have a break in the pace towards tyranny.
jcgoldie
(11,613 posts)Maybe its wishful thinking but that seemingly throw away phrase tossed in reference to spearfishing for emails on the exact same date Trump famously gave his "Russia if your listening..." speech... maybe its telling.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)that's a man lying openly and selling out every one of us. Look real good at his face. That's a sociopath in action.
TomSlick
(11,092 posts)If it's in the indictment, it means something. The only question is what does it mean?
I'm looking forward to learning.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)If Donald Trump had sent someone an email saying "I hope youre able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily," and a few hours later that same someone hacked in Clinton's servers, do you think there would be any question about Trump's involvement? Lordy, we don't need tapes, we have it on television.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)they aren't called Intelligence Agencies...for nothing eh?