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kpete

(71,983 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 02:52 PM Jul 2018

Jimmy Carter unloads on 'cruel' Trump

Last edited Sun Jul 15, 2018, 05:40 PM - Edit history (1)


http://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/ex-president-jimmy-carter-unloads-cruel-trump-us-government-now-worse/

When speaking to salon about his famous “Crisis of Confidence” speech, former President Jimmy Carter had this observation about America’s current commander-in-chief, Donald Trump.

“I think that under Trump the government is worse than it has been before,” Carter explained by email. “This is the first time I remember when the truth is ignored, allies are deliberately aggravated, China, Europe, Mexico and Canada are hurt economically and have to hurt us in response, Americans see the future worse than the present, and immigrants are treated cruelly.”




UPDATE to add this link I just found:
The Rest:
https://www.salon.com/2018/07/15/jimmy-carter-reflects-on-a-lifetime-under-trump-the-government-is-worse-than-it-has-been-before/
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Jimmy Carter unloads on 'cruel' Trump (Original Post) kpete Jul 2018 OP
You know it's bad when... WePurrsevere Jul 2018 #1
Word! Brother Buzz Jul 2018 #2
Absolutely! blue-wave Jul 2018 #5
Well put Soxfan58 Jul 2018 #10
Especially Carter. One of the most decent bitterross Jul 2018 #11
Yes but they should all do it now FakeNoose Jul 2018 #13
I agree they all should & they should... WePurrsevere Jul 2018 #17
Bush caused Trump. LisaM Jul 2018 #22
Agreed. zanana1 Jul 2018 #24
Absolutely. The same corrupt machine elected both of them. F**k Bush and the horse he rode in on. olegramps Jul 2018 #29
Yep. calimary Jul 2018 #31
My first thought. sarah FAILIN Jul 2018 #18
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #21
kick for exposure. Carter says it better than anyone. Thank You for posting this.. Stuart G Jul 2018 #3
His heart must be breaking to see his country in this shape. nolabear Jul 2018 #4
All our hearts are breaking to see the country in this shape. BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #7
I know exactly how you feel, nolabear. calimary Jul 2018 #32
The midterms will decide the fate of the republic. roamer65 Jul 2018 #6
A great humanitarian and American k & r! bronxiteforever Jul 2018 #8
treat our allies as the enemy while treating our enemies as our allies........ keithbvadu2 Jul 2018 #9
Carter tried to warn us about the New Right during his 1980 campaign sandensea Jul 2018 #12
wow gabeana Jul 2018 #16
A man of vision. sandensea Jul 2018 #19
Wow! karin_sj Jul 2018 #28
And America turned its backs on him. calimary Jul 2018 #34
"I think that under Trump the government is worse than it has been before." Garrett78 Jul 2018 #14
bout time heaven05 Jul 2018 #15
Carter said something else in that speech, something that is being proven wrong at this very moment. StevieM Jul 2018 #20
Raw Story doing it's usual rip off of someone else's reporting oberliner Jul 2018 #23
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #25
k & r Achilleaze Jul 2018 #26
But what happened to all that "benefit of the doubt" Carter wanted to give him? greatbaldeagle Jul 2018 #27
Carter's opinion has been tempered... not replaced. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #30
Are you saying evidence didn't exist as of March of THIS YEAR? greatbaldeagle Jul 2018 #35
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #33

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
1. You know it's bad when...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jul 2018

A past president breaks the normal code of silence and speaks out against the current one.

You know it's truly awful if that past president is Jimmy Carter.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
11. Especially Carter. One of the most decent
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 04:40 PM
Jul 2018

Carter has to be really upset if he's speaking out like this.

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
13. Yes but they should all do it now
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 05:20 PM
Jul 2018

These aren't normal times! I respect Jimmy Carter and I think he's doing the right thing.

Why won't "Shrub" open his mouth? We already know that none of the Bushes voted for Trump.
So what's the big deal? Speak up now boys, you might not get another chance!

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
17. I agree they all should & they should...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jul 2018

as a united front, making a huge production of it calling in all of the MSM and simultaneously cast to FB, Twitter, etc to cover their big announcement.

That 'might' get a few people that are sitting around acting like 'Hear no evil, See no evil and Speak no evil' to wake up, take action and VOTE to get this disaster of a president and admin contained before even more innocent people are hurt or killed.

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
22. Bush caused Trump.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 12:50 AM
Jul 2018

He stole an election and got away with it, making a blue print for future elections going forward. He then proceeded to stack the Supreme Court with justices who let Citizens United happen, not to mention their dismantling of the Voting Rights Act. I don't care what he has to say, unless it's a big fat apology to the world.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
29. Absolutely. The same corrupt machine elected both of them. F**k Bush and the horse he rode in on.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jul 2018

Bush and his administration should be painting pictures from a jail cell for their lies that cost us over 5,000 American soldiers lives and ten of thousands seriously maimed for life.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
18. My first thought.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jul 2018

Carter would stay quiet through anything till now. Shit has hit that Georgia fan for him to speak out.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
4. His heart must be breaking to see his country in this shape.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 03:42 PM
Jul 2018

Half my reason for being determined not to die or give in is to outlive that bastard and maybe see things begin to recover. I don’t know how I’d feel at his age.

calimary

(81,209 posts)
32. I know exactly how you feel, nolabear.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:19 AM
Jul 2018

But I’m not heartbroken as much as I am spitting-fire angry.

keithbvadu2

(36,762 posts)
9. treat our allies as the enemy while treating our enemies as our allies........
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 04:09 PM
Jul 2018

(from another blog)
The Trump Doctrine - treat our allies as the enemy while treating our enemies as our allies........

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
12. Carter tried to warn us about the New Right during his 1980 campaign
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 04:53 PM
Jul 2018
"The year 2000 is just less than 20 years away, just four Presidential elections after this one. Children born this year will come of age in the 21st century.

The time to shape the world of the year 2000 is now. The decisions of the next few years will set our course, perhaps an irreversible course, and the most important of all choices will be made by the American people at the polls less than 3 months from tonight.

But there is another possible future:

In that other future I see despair—despair of millions who would struggle for equal opportunity and a better life and struggle alone.

And I see surrender—the surrender of our energy future to the merchants of oil, the surrender of our economic future to a bizarre program of massive tax cuts for the rich, service cuts for the poor, and massive inflation for everyone.

And I see risk—the risk of international confrontation, the risk of an uncontrollable, unaffordable, and unwinnable nuclear arms race."

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
19. A man of vision.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jul 2018

And here's the kicker: his teleprompter mysteriously failed to turn on, so Carter gave most of his '80 acceptance speech - including the part above - from memory.

I doubt Cheeto could give you his phone number from memory (probably Putin's though).

calimary

(81,209 posts)
34. And America turned its backs on him.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jul 2018

He’s a living saint. And a visionary. He saw all this coming, but he was so diminished by the smug attacks that nobody felt like listening.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. "I think that under Trump the government is worse than it has been before."
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jul 2018

That's the idea. Undermine trust in government and other institutions. That's been the Republican (and Putin) agenda for decades.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
20. Carter said something else in that speech, something that is being proven wrong at this very moment.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:13 PM
Jul 2018

"I want to talk to you right now about a fundamental threat to American democracy. I do not mean our political and civil liberties. They will endure."

Our democracy is now in grave peril and it is not entirely clear that it will endure. And Donald Trump is not the primary cause--he is the primary symptom.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. Raw Story doing it's usual rip off of someone else's reporting
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:10 AM
Jul 2018

Thanks for including the actual link to the actual story from Salon. I'd encourage you to delete the click-bait Raw Story one.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
27. But what happened to all that "benefit of the doubt" Carter wanted to give him?
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:44 AM
Jul 2018

Carter is all over the place. I like what he's saying now but he was one of the people trying to tone down the reaction Trump was getting from the media and the public. I thought he came of very SOFT in his previous statements.

"But my own preference would be that he not be impeached, but that he be able to serve out his term, because I think he wants to do a good job. And I'm willing to help him, if I can help him, and give him the benefit of the doubt."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jimmy-carter-my-preference-would-be-that-trump-not-be-impeached/

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. Carter's opinion has been tempered... not replaced.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:45 AM
Jul 2018

It's not out of the realm of possibilities for a position to change when faced with so much evidence as to require that reevaluation. That's not "all over the place...", it's simply additional consideration given to that which is relevant.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
35. Are you saying evidence didn't exist as of March of THIS YEAR?
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jul 2018

So are you saying that it was only after March of THIS YEAR that Carter was able to determine that Trump was cruel and that our government and the rest of the world was in trouble? We already had his birther BS before he ran for office, which should have taken away any future benefit of the doubt. The day President Obama had to stand before the world and show his birth certificate was a sad day in history. That alone should have been enough. But we had all of the racist and dangerous rhetoric during the campaign ("Lock her up!", "Build a wall!", "Would have been taken out on a stretcher in the old days".) Mocking a disabled reporter. Going after a gold star family. The Mexican judge. Once in office, all of the tweets about "big buttons" as it relates to NUCLEAR WEAPONS and the proven lies during his first year in office. He never showed his tax returns. He tried to end the Affordable Care Act. The Muslim ban. Withdrawal from the Paris agreement. The transgender ban in the military. Showing hostility towards the press and labeling them "fake news". He fired the FBI director after he wouldn't pledge his loyalty. His cabinet has been the biggest revolving door in history. His "both sides" BS as it related to Nazis in Charlottesville and calling NFL players "sons of bitches" because they dared to kneel because unarmed people are being killed by law enforcement. But I guess that just wasn't enough.

Yes, he's all over the place if in March of THIS YEAR he didn't have the perspective that he claims he has now.

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