Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

edhopper

(33,469 posts)
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:29 PM Jul 2018

What does Putin have on Trump?

I don't think it's the Pee Tape. I don't think Trump cares about that getting out.
I thought it might be that Putin threatened his family, but does Trump really care about them? (well maybe Ivanka)

I think Putin might have one of two things, or both.

He may have a tape of Trump conspiring with Russia to when the election. Clear evidence of treason.

Or, and I think more likely, he has control of the debt on the majority of the Trump Organization and can ruin Trump overnight. He can take it all away.

What think you all?

22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
What does Putin have on Trump? (Original Post) edhopper Jul 2018 OP
It is about money. dalton99a Jul 2018 #1
Totally agree. Trump cares only about the lure of money. That's enough for him to sell out the USA JDC Jul 2018 #5
Yup. Follow the money. trof Jul 2018 #22
irrelevant AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #2
Agreed! StarryNite Jul 2018 #4
Yes RandomAccess Jul 2018 #14
Money laundering blackmail. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #3
Rather how much does Trump owe him....Putin could bankrupt him probably immediately. sunonmars Jul 2018 #6
Highly likely the second option. bearsfootball516 Jul 2018 #7
It's the money. It's always the money. n/t TygrBright Jul 2018 #8
Putin has everything Mueller has. At minimum. n/t kedrys Jul 2018 #9
Proof that Trump hotels and resorts have bed bugs. lpbk2713 Jul 2018 #10
Money Meowmee Jul 2018 #11
Money donkeypoofed Jul 2018 #12
Both. fierywoman Jul 2018 #13
A hot load all over his face. nt Codeine Jul 2018 #15
Maybe he has tapes of him duforsure Jul 2018 #16
***NOT TRUMP*** Putin has dirt on GOP and leadership including where they've been getting their mone uponit7771 Jul 2018 #17
Money and debt DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #18
"All of life's riddles are answered in the movies." Ghost of Tom Joad Jul 2018 #19
Money, several years ago one of his sons was asked about appalachiablue Jul 2018 #20
Always follow the money malaise Jul 2018 #21

JDC

(10,114 posts)
5. Totally agree. Trump cares only about the lure of money. That's enough for him to sell out the USA
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:34 PM
Jul 2018

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
2. irrelevant
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jul 2018

the main issue is that trump is driven by the desire to be an autocrat like putin. Putin is key in helping trump to achieve that. Family? Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. And of course there has been lots of money laundering over the years and illegal transactions between trump and putin linked oligarchs but those were consensual. Trump sold himself to the devil and now he is taking our country with him.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
3. Money laundering blackmail.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:33 PM
Jul 2018

Plus the debt and likely the collusion.

He has the proverbial tiger by the tail.

In other words, they own him.

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
7. Highly likely the second option.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:35 PM
Jul 2018

Trump lost a lot in the 2008 recession and Putin/Russia helped him out. It's one of the reasons he won't release his tax returns. Trump is an egomaniac and couldn't stand people knowing that he's not nearly as wealthy as he pretends to be and that most of his wealth is only there because of Russian loans.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
12. Money
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 01:46 PM
Jul 2018

It's the currency that trumps all for him (haha, did y'all catch that?😉 Follow the money trail to the 2008, or even all the way back to year he met and married his first Soviet wife, Ivana (1977?), and there's probably a long and twisted trail of Russian money laundering behind him.

I've heard and read rumours that Putin bought all.of Spanky's debts that he could around 2008. Spanky IS a puppet because Vlad literally and figuratively owns him. He has all kinds of dirt on him, ie. proof of his abortion payoffs and affair payouts to assorted women, etc. They also would have recordings.of.phone calls of him committing treasonous acts, so Spanky had better hope that they don't or that they NEVER use it.

He's just taking Marching Orders at this point from Putin; he doesn't really have a choice and his own personal reputation is clearly more important than his country. That's not to say he hates his country, it's just that he's more important.

It's all part of his mental illness (Malignant Narcissism). I also don't know how much longer his handlers are going to be able to hide his pre-alzheimers, which will only get worse. And why haven't we heard of a 2018 Physical? I wanna hear how he's now a svelte 237 lbs! Isn't it wonderful? Or can't they find another Dr's life they wanna ruin?

At the end of the day, it'll be financial stuff that'll finish him off, but I truly hope Treason charges are laid first.or are tried first. Does America execute people for Treason or is it just jail for life in a Club Fed? That's just my take on an interesting question.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
16. Maybe he has tapes of him
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jul 2018

committing crimes , horrible crimes to others. Just let your imagination wonder, and its always worse with him involved.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
17. ***NOT TRUMP*** Putin has dirt on GOP and leadership including where they've been getting their mone
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jul 2018

... money from.

Russians hacked into the GOP server too

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
18. Money and debt
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jul 2018

Couldn't put your last point better, "Putin has control of the debt of the majority of the Trump Organization and can ruin Trump overnight. He can take it all away" in an instant. Even if Putin doesn't pull the plug on the loans, he can certainly find outlets to leak out the news that Trump isn't nearly as rich or as smart as he claims and expose Trump as a fraud.

I also think it's possible Putin is dangling future personal enrichment to Trump, too.

Maybe a carrot and stick approach to controlling Trump.

In either event, it's all about the moola.

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
20. Money, several years ago one of his sons was asked about
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 06:34 PM
Jul 2018

their bankruptcies and said that's not an issue 'because we get $$ from Russia (banks).' Putin could have those lenders get their money back. At least that's what Thom Hartmann thinks and said today, and it's not about The Tapes scandal.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»What does Putin have on T...