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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat does Putin have on Trump?
I don't think it's the Pee Tape. I don't think Trump cares about that getting out.
I thought it might be that Putin threatened his family, but does Trump really care about them? (well maybe Ivanka)
I think Putin might have one of two things, or both.
He may have a tape of Trump conspiring with Russia to when the election. Clear evidence of treason.
Or, and I think more likely, he has control of the debt on the majority of the Trump Organization and can ruin Trump overnight. He can take it all away.
What think you all?
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)JDC
(10,114 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)That's my guess.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)the main issue is that trump is driven by the desire to be an autocrat like putin. Putin is key in helping trump to achieve that. Family? Trump doesnt care about anyone but himself. And of course there has been lots of money laundering over the years and illegal transactions between trump and putin linked oligarchs but those were consensual. Trump sold himself to the devil and now he is taking our country with him.
StarryNite
(9,434 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Trump lusts in his heart for the same status Putin has.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)Plus the debt and likely the collusion.
He has the proverbial tiger by the tail.
In other words, they own him.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,373 posts)Trump lost a lot in the 2008 recession and Putin/Russia helped him out. It's one of the reasons he won't release his tax returns. Trump is an egomaniac and couldn't stand people knowing that he's not nearly as wealthy as he pretends to be and that most of his wealth is only there because of Russian loans.
TygrBright
(20,753 posts)kedrys
(7,678 posts)lpbk2713
(42,736 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)That is prolly the biggest reason, then evidence of treason etc.
donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)It's the currency that trumps all for him (haha, did y'all catch that?😉 Follow the money trail to the 2008, or even all the way back to year he met and married his first Soviet wife, Ivana (1977?), and there's probably a long and twisted trail of Russian money laundering behind him.
I've heard and read rumours that Putin bought all.of Spanky's debts that he could around 2008. Spanky IS a puppet because Vlad literally and figuratively owns him. He has all kinds of dirt on him, ie. proof of his abortion payoffs and affair payouts to assorted women, etc. They also would have recordings.of.phone calls of him committing treasonous acts, so Spanky had better hope that they don't or that they NEVER use it.
He's just taking Marching Orders at this point from Putin; he doesn't really have a choice and his own personal reputation is clearly more important than his country. That's not to say he hates his country, it's just that he's more important.
It's all part of his mental illness (Malignant Narcissism). I also don't know how much longer his handlers are going to be able to hide his pre-alzheimers, which will only get worse. And why haven't we heard of a 2018 Physical? I wanna hear how he's now a svelte 237 lbs! Isn't it wonderful? Or can't they find another Dr's life they wanna ruin?
At the end of the day, it'll be financial stuff that'll finish him off, but I truly hope Treason charges are laid first.or are tried first. Does America execute people for Treason or is it just jail for life in a Club Fed? That's just my take on an interesting question.
fierywoman
(7,668 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)duforsure
(11,884 posts)committing crimes , horrible crimes to others. Just let your imagination wonder, and its always worse with him involved.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... money from.
Russians hacked into the GOP server too
DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)Couldn't put your last point better, "Putin has control of the debt of the majority of the Trump Organization and can ruin Trump overnight. He can take it all away" in an instant. Even if Putin doesn't pull the plug on the loans, he can certainly find outlets to leak out the news that Trump isn't nearly as rich or as smart as he claims and expose Trump as a fraud.
I also think it's possible Putin is dangling future personal enrichment to Trump, too.
Maybe a carrot and stick approach to controlling Trump.
In either event, it's all about the moola.
Ghost of Tom Joad
(1,354 posts)a quote from Grand Canyon
appalachiablue
(41,102 posts)their bankruptcies and said that's not an issue 'because we get $$ from Russia (banks).' Putin could have those lenders get their money back. At least that's what Thom Hartmann thinks and said today, and it's not about The Tapes scandal.
malaise
(268,670 posts)Debt