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I wonder if any NRA execs will be charged? (Original Post) Kingofalldems Jul 2018 OP
No! BlueJac Jul 2018 #1
Yes ! empedocles Jul 2018 #2
aHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!! Volaris Jul 2018 #3
For..? AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #4
Accepting foreign money and funneling it into a federal election. nt BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #5
Yep. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #7
You have to be able to prove that...we ain't anywhere near there. AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #8
You have to comb through the indictment BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #10
Did you read your linked filing...? I did. AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #14
Oops. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #15
Ooopps what....? AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #19
The NRA racists hated Obama. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #23
Only to make sure the record is accurate... AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #25
Yes I read it - 17 pages BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #21
Says who? You? Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #26
Have at it...it'll be fun to watch....costly for us...but here we are again. AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #30
We'll see. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #31
Has WHAT to do with the NRA...Or Treason? AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #32
Yo geez...it's called enforcing the law. That's what it has to do with it. Your assertion was that Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #33
"Your assertion was that the statute didnt apply.".... AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #34
Above in the threads dude. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #35
Treason. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #9
Do you know the Constitutinal definition of Treason? There's specificity. AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #11
Enlighten us Generic Brad Jul 2018 #13
I'd refer you to ArticleIII SecIII AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #16
Yes, the standard is based on the meaning of an "enemy". OliverQ Jul 2018 #17
I asked for your definition of treason Generic Brad Jul 2018 #18
I again refer you to ArticleIII SecIII.... AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #20
I've got your number Generic Brad Jul 2018 #22
You seem to have an issue with Constitutional definitions of words being thrown AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #24
And you seem to think you know everything. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #27
I was asked....the definition of Treason...I provided the AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #28
Do I have to tell you? Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #12
Please do....I'd like to hear your definition... AncientGeezer Jul 2018 #29
Awww--Looky here: Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #36
And here is Wayne LaPierre: Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #37
I knew they would show up. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #6

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
3. aHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 07:52 PM
Jul 2018

CHARGED LOL.
You should do open mike nite at the local comedy hut...

No they won't be damned charged.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
8. You have to be able to prove that...we ain't anywhere near there.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 08:19 PM
Jul 2018

NRA is a lawyer'd up joint...they don't make mistakes that leaves them open to this kind of liability.
THey haven't been around this long and been this influential by making stupid FEC mistakes

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
14. Did you read your linked filing...? I did.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:13 PM
Jul 2018

This crap started in 2015 with this girl.

I'll bet $1k right now to an animal shelter of the winners choice.. NRA has this legally locked down. It's a cake walk.
I'm not a member but I know they have deep legal pockets.

Kingofalldems

(38,425 posts)
23. The NRA racists hated Obama.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:38 PM
Jul 2018

The treason started back then. Not sure why you inject Obama into the discussion.

BumRushDaShow

(128,515 posts)
21. Yes I read it - 17 pages
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:37 PM
Jul 2018

and have been reading about her and what happened with the NRA and for some time.

Good luck with your bet. I don't "bet" with anonymous internet posters but I suggest you stay tuned.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
26. Says who? You?
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:04 PM
Jul 2018

All it takes is pinching a few to squeal. Get them and get a confession. the rest falls into place.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
30. Have at it...it'll be fun to watch....costly for us...but here we are again.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:31 PM
Jul 2018

Fighting dragons with bb guns

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
31. We'll see.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:32 PM
Jul 2018

Stzrok and Rosenstien didn't appear to be happy about the situation at all. We haven't even seen Mueller yet. This is a big country.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
33. Yo geez...it's called enforcing the law. That's what it has to do with it. Your assertion was that
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:57 PM
Jul 2018

the statute didnt apply. i disagreed and every day we go forward it applies even more. theres also attempted treason, conspiracy to commit treason...and offshoots of every other law, they have broken. Calm the fuck down. It's what a jury says it is. NOT necessarily YOU.
Some of the crimes don't actually have to have happened...ala.. treason...just that you meant/thought you were trying to do it. Lots of loopholes in the law. ESPECIALLY when the prosecutors are gunning for you and defending the USA. But, Ill defer to the lawyers. Hopefully Federal ones.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
34. "Your assertion was that the statute didnt apply."....
Tue Jul 17, 2018, 12:39 AM
Jul 2018

I've made that assertion where...when... re: ANY Statute?
I sourced the Constitution.

You JUST typed this....."Some of the crimes don't actually have to have happened...ala.. treason"..."just that you meant/thought you were trying to do it."
A crime that's NOT happened can be prosecuted??? What "statute" or part of the Constitution do you source for that declaration?

Do tell me where in ANY legal writings...or the Constitution that a thought of committing a crime constitutes the same penalty as Committing the crime

No... Frig NO. That's NOT how the Law works...and if it EVER gets there..Trumpanzees will have everybody on DU in shackles for thoughts of "trying to do it"...

Did you think out your post before you hit "post my reply" ?

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
11. Do you know the Constitutinal definition of Treason? There's specificity.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jul 2018

Yelling "Treason" at every shiny object isn't a winning plan.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
16. I'd refer you to ArticleIII SecIII
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:21 PM
Jul 2018

Treason has a VERY specific legal definition.
Because I hate the Dumpster doesn't mean what he does is Treason...

How many on the Right screamed "Treason" during 8 yrs of POTUS Obama...?
Countless pecker weaseles.

There is a very specific standard...

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
17. Yes, the standard is based on the meaning of an "enemy".
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:26 PM
Jul 2018

Historically, that meant a country we're in declared or open war with. The Constitution, however, never actually defines it and we have no way to apply that standard to the modern concept of Cyber warfare.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
24. You seem to have an issue with Constitutional definitions of words being thrown
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 10:59 PM
Jul 2018

around...if that's my "number", using ArtIII SecIII.....Fine. I'll take that number.

Let me ask You...what is Your definition of Treason?
This should be interesting.
Please do inform me of your take. I await your definition.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
27. And you seem to think you know everything.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jul 2018

Theres a lot of crimes banging around in trumpworld. All it takes is a persuasive atty to get a jury to see the light on anything.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
28. I was asked....the definition of Treason...I provided the
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:18 PM
Jul 2018

Constitutional definition ArtIII SecIII...it's a very specific detailed deal. Not a matter of knowing "everything"...by any stretch.

Other crimes...absolutely possible and I suspect will be a banking deal, FEC crap, tax avoidance probably..but when I see Treason thrown out....not sitting back there.

My brother said The Iran Nuclear deal was Treason...wasn't.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
29. Please do....I'd like to hear your definition...
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 11:22 PM
Jul 2018

I will of course refer you Again back to ArtIII SecIII... the Only binding legal authority

Kingofalldems

(38,425 posts)
6. I knew they would show up.
Mon Jul 16, 2018, 08:11 PM
Jul 2018

NRA is up to their necks in possible espionage/collusion/ money laundering and the gunners don't seem to mind.

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