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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:26 AM Jul 2018

New court filing: Butina offered an individual sex in exchange for position in an organization:





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Devlin Barrett
@DevlinBarrett

In new court filing, feds say they believe Maria Butina has been in contact with Russian intel officers, and "offered an individual other than (her boyfriend) sex in exchange for a position within a special interest organization."
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New court filing: Butina offered an individual sex in exchange for position in an organization: (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jul 2018 OP
Womp! Womp! Raster Jul 2018 #1
Why can't they say it...SHE IS A SPY. sunonmars Jul 2018 #2
Technically. . . matt819 Jul 2018 #62
A real Russian honey pot dalton99a Jul 2018 #3
Red Sparrow Zoonart Jul 2018 #13
+1 dalton99a Jul 2018 #30
So is this a third charge for prostitution? fleur-de-lisa Jul 2018 #4
Who is Devlin Barrett? kentuck Jul 2018 #5
Reporter for the Washington Post Mrs. Overall Jul 2018 #6
Washington Post reporter covering national security. Here is his bio from wapo site emulatorloo Jul 2018 #9
Thanks for providing all of this info! : ) Mrs. Overall Jul 2018 #10
It was easy! emulatorloo Jul 2018 #11
The plot thickens... Scurrilous Jul 2018 #7
republican family-values definitely include copious closet copulation (CCC) Achilleaze Jul 2018 #8
Red Sparrow? MineralMan Jul 2018 #12
LOL! HAB911 Jul 2018 #22
It was really all people could do while watching that training film MineralMan Jul 2018 #25
+++++++++++ HAB911 Jul 2018 #32
Why does that soldier sound like Elmer Fudd? MineralMan Jul 2018 #34
More like Bugs since he's voice by Mel Blanc TlalocW Jul 2018 #53
Bugs Bunny BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #54
LOL! rusty fender Jul 2018 #79
Have you seen the film "Red Sparrow" ? They've improved the production. rainin Jul 2018 #44
Nope. Haven't seen it. MineralMan Jul 2018 #46
It's both good and bad. I understand the bad reviews but I still recommend it. rainin Jul 2018 #55
Maybe I'll stream it sometime. MineralMan Jul 2018 #56
I'm a huge fan of the book Danascot Jul 2018 #82
Coronet Films lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #71
Yup. That's them. I went to school in the heyday of MineralMan Jul 2018 #72
probably x rated back then samnsara Jul 2018 #76
That was the funny thing. It wasn't. MineralMan Jul 2018 #77
766th MI had a honey trap story that must be shared. jmowreader Jul 2018 #39
They tried to entrap a single guy? How stupid of them. If he's married, the story is less believable rainin Jul 2018 #48
How disappointing. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #70
Yah, I saw that one earlier. MineralMan Jul 2018 #73
So she offered Don Jr some pussy? Thrill Jul 2018 #14
See also Tom Winter from NBC emulatorloo Jul 2018 #15
Unless I had a paper bag... Ligyron Jul 2018 #64
Is she a graduate from Russian Whore School ? (Red Sparrow reference) uponit7771 Jul 2018 #16
This makes me go back to wondering if Melania is an asset too. Tatiana Jul 2018 #17
She certainly comes across as that type, speaks 6 languages but ends up a "model" with Trump sunonmars Jul 2018 #20
Yep. He thinks she wants him. Pathetic! rainin Jul 2018 #52
+1. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2018 #29
I am trying to recall the movie where the russians cultivate children at an asiliveandbreathe Jul 2018 #18
Polonium Loki Liesmith Jul 2018 #38
Just making sure we are eyes wide open....I knew that..LOL asiliveandbreathe Jul 2018 #40
Kim Philby ewagner Jul 2018 #41
A Spy Among Friends..is this what we are up against...a father - a husband - a traitor, a spy... asiliveandbreathe Jul 2018 #45
Here ewagner Jul 2018 #47
Thank you..on it!!!!! asiliveandbreathe Jul 2018 #50
The series "The American" comes to mind elmac Jul 2018 #43
based on a true story lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #78
Wayne LaPierre peekaloo Jul 2018 #19
You think they could safeinOhio Jul 2018 #23
Chances are there would be no sex. peekaloo Jul 2018 #81
Red Sparrow! Baitball Blogger Jul 2018 #21
La Putina Xipe Totec Jul 2018 #63
LOL lunatica Jul 2018 #74
LOL. The press will EAT THIS UP! manor321 Jul 2018 #24
Can she steam your trousers while you're wearing them? Sancho Jul 2018 #26
Dana Rohrabacher is somehow involved in all of this. Mrs. Overall Jul 2018 #27
They would never have seen the face of Dana "The Gimp" Rohrabacher. snort Jul 2018 #42
And Rohrabacher can be beaten! Vote HARLEY ROUDA! B Stieg Jul 2018 #49
Probably Walker since he says their interaction was cilla4progress Jul 2018 #28
Personal taste here. But she looks..... pretty meh... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2018 #31
IMO a woman too pretty would stand out and might be too Lanius Jul 2018 #61
There's nothing like a Republican sex scandal C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #33
Adam Schiff bitterly complained that the House Intel committee madaboutharry Jul 2018 #35
Apparently she testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in closed session BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #60
ITA JustAnotherGen Jul 2018 #68
"Special interest organization"? B2G Jul 2018 #36
So US Person 1 is not Rohrabacher Ezior Jul 2018 #37
This guy... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2018 #75
Kick ck4829 Jul 2018 #51
Literally and figuratively fucking the NRA SHRED Jul 2018 #57
Wow a real swallow... Ellipsis Jul 2018 #58
Farenhold is 56, just saying... bluecoat_fan Jul 2018 #59
I find it extremely interesting that when Natasha wanted gibraltar72 Jul 2018 #65
This should be it's own post Dread Pirate Roberts Jul 2018 #67
So ... LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #66
The NRA has been compromised. Putin's puppets saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #69
NRA's alleged Russian spy 'offered sex' for job with 'special interest organization': court filing Gothmog Jul 2018 #80

matt819

(10,749 posts)
62. Technically. . .
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jul 2018

It depends on whether she is an employee of one of the Russian intelligence agencies. If she is, then she is a Russian intelligence officer. Or what is popularly, but inaccurately, known as a spy. (BTW, the spy would be the one working for the foreign intelligence agency. IOW, trump, lapiere, clarke, et al, would be the spies.)

From what I've read so far, she would be more accurately described as an "access agent," working at the direction of, you guessed it, a Russian intelligence officer.

In a normal world, an access agent would be someone of the same nationality of the country the intel officer is operating in, or a third country national. That way, the target would not necessarily know that he/she is being targeted by a foreign intelligence service. The objective would be for the access agent to provide information to the foreign intelligence officer that would allow that person to ultimately recruit the target. Do they need money? Ideologically in agreement with the foreign intelligence service? Revenge against their own country for any number of reasons? Ego boost? The name Hillary makes the target shake with rage? You name it. The pitch could be based on any or all of these factors.

The fact that Butina is Russian, and an apparently well-connected Russian at that, sort of expedites the process. The target (stupidly) may not realize he/she is a target, but they certainly know from the start that they are in touch with a Russian. The fact that they are willing, indeed eager, to meet with her and accept gifts, gives her and in turn the Russian intelligence officer all they need to recruit the target.

Butina and/or the intel officer, may choose to regard some of her contacts as useful idiots, providing credibility, perhaps, or access to yet other targets. But to be considered an actual asset, the Russian intel officer would make the pitch and make it clear what is required and what will be provided in return. As noted above, it may only take an ego boost, or it may take trips to Russia, or it may take actual money in the bank.

emulatorloo

(44,118 posts)
9. Washington Post reporter covering national security. Here is his bio from wapo site
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:35 AM
Jul 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/devlin-barrett/?utm_term=.ecb330ab25f9

Devlin Barrett
Washington, D.C.

Reporter focusing on national security and law enforcement
Education: McGill University, BA
Devlin Barrett writes about national security and law enforcement. He started as a copy boy at the New York Post, and since then has covered the NYPD, federal courts, and the Justice Department and its component agencies, including the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Honors & Awards:
Pulitzer Prize co-finalist for Feature Writing, 2017
Pulitzer Prize co-finalist for International Reporting, 2017

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
8. republican family-values definitely include copious closet copulation (CCC)
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jul 2018

freaking degenerate republicans have the morals of Corpulent Unloyal Cossack Kinksters (CUCKs).

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. Red Sparrow?
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:40 AM
Jul 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/03/red-sparrow-used-to-be-an-actual-phenomenon-during-the-cold-war.html

I remember a security briefing back in the late 60s, when I was working in the NSA building while serving in the USAF. I had one of those Top Secret clearances with a bunch of extended features. They showed us a film about the Russians training young women to seduce people like me.

Like many other young guys in their 20s, I kept waiting for one of them to show up. Never happened.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
25. It was really all people could do while watching that training film
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jul 2018

not to laugh out loud. It reminded me of those anti-drug and "hygeine" films they used to show in high school in the early 60s. Bad actors, poor production values, and the same damned narrator who used to do voice-overs on nature films and other such stuff.

That particular honey pot warning film was probably made in the late 50s or early 60s, based on the clothing. The featured Russian woman sidles up to a guy in a bar and comes on to him in not a very subtle way. Of course, the guy, being a guy with no sense whatsoever, doesn't recognize her Russian accent. He's too busy looking at her cleavage.

So, off they go to a hotel room, where he spills all sorts of Top Secret information, once she shows him more of her assets and fondles his assets.

Ridiculous stuff, but the security folks took it seriously. None of those in the audience did, of course, and no such thing ever happened to anyone I knew. Unfortunately, that period of my young adult life was very unexciting...sexually...I mean.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
53. More like Bugs since he's voice by Mel Blanc
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:03 PM
Jul 2018

Blanc only did Fudd's voice when he had to. He didn't like it.

TlalocW

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
79. LOL!
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jul 2018

Those twirler Nazi tits, tiny typewriter, and Wagner music are hilarious, but the vicious stereotypes, I guess, were a product of the times

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
46. Nope. Haven't seen it.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:00 PM
Jul 2018

It's had poor reviews, so I'm skipping it. I saw Jennifer Lawrence's assets already in another movie.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
55. It's both good and bad. I understand the bad reviews but I still recommend it.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:06 PM
Jul 2018

If your expectations are low, you'll probably enjoy it. The twists, turns, and unexpected outcomes make it totally worth the time. I'm watching it again with other members of the family.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
82. I'm a huge fan of the book
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jul 2018

so I was really looking forward to seeing the movie, especially since it has Jennifer Lawrence in it, one of our best actresses.

But the movie was a mess. Murky plot, long, boring sections, characters you don't care about ... I had to stop watching about halfway in.

I do highly recommend the book and the two others in the Red Sparrow trilogy. It's one of the best spy thrillers I've read, and I've read hundreds.

Here's a review of the book that says it far better than I could:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/red-sparrow-a-fantastic-new-spy-thriller-by-former-cia-operative-jason-matthews/2013/10/15/3f7f9672-cc50-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html?utm_term=.86730a25f290

If you decide to see the movie, see it before you read the book. Maybe it won't be such a disappointment.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
71. Coronet Films
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jul 2018

Tons of 'em are on Youtube. Very enjoyable to watch now, and occasionally spot a budding star in them. Dick York from Bewitched was in some of them.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
72. Yup. That's them. I went to school in the heyday of
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jul 2018

that company's success. I still remember that 16mm projector whirring away and the scratchy little speaker it had. We saw them all during my public school days.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
39. 766th MI had a honey trap story that must be shared.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:44 PM
Jul 2018

The agent described this guy as “the guy who taught the actors in Revenge of the Nerds how to act like nerds.” One fine evening he met two women in a bar who took him home with them.

Unfortunately for the two women, he was also smart enough to report the contact to US intelligence. Turns out one was a GRU major and the other a GRU colonel. So when the two Soviets set up another meet to try to blackmail him, the US government filled the bar with armed agents pretending to be customers.

So...in they and the chief of mission in Berlin showed up to entrap this kid.

“You will provide us with...” (very long list of top secret information.)

“No.”

“We have a photo of you having sex with two high ranking Soviet intelligence officers...”

(Our guy snatches picture) Hey thanks! I told everyone I know about that night and no one believed me.”

rainin

(3,011 posts)
48. They tried to entrap a single guy? How stupid of them. If he's married, the story is less believable
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jul 2018

unless he has a very understanding wife.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
70. How disappointing.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:28 PM
Jul 2018

Maybe it would have softened the blow if they had followed that training film with the one about VD.

emulatorloo

(44,118 posts)
15. See also Tom Winter from NBC
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jul 2018

NEW: The FBI says Mariia Butina was compared to Russian spy Anna Chapman by a Russian Official, was planning to leave Washington (if not the country), and offered someone sex in exchange for a position in a special interest organization during her work in the US, per court filing










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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
20. She certainly comes across as that type, speaks 6 languages but ends up a "model" with Trump
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:01 PM
Jul 2018

Yup she's defeinitely in that category.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
18. I am trying to recall the movie where the russians cultivate children at an
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:54 AM
Jul 2018

early age to be Russian spies....as I research Russian spies, there are numerous stories..real life stories around the world..for years....

this putin guy..be afraid..be very afraid..just one story - Alexander Litvinenko..don't believe me..read the story...putin killed him..in London..yep - plutonium....

We MUST vote in November..like our lives depend on it!!!

Hubby just reminded me - the movie..SALT....

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
41. Kim Philby
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:53 PM
Jul 2018

Recruited from Cambridge...one of the "Cambridge 5"

Double agent...

Exposed in the early 60s and traded back to Russia for British operatives.

Inspired the story Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy

I understand (perhaps incorrectly,) there is a statue of him in Red Square.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
45. A Spy Among Friends..is this what we are up against...a father - a husband - a traitor, a spy...
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jul 2018

I've got some reading to do.....thanks for this ewagner....

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
43. The series "The American" comes to mind
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:56 PM
Jul 2018

though the violence was seriously overstated, made up, their infiltration techniques were spot on.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
78. based on a true story
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:49 PM
Jul 2018

and the Russian spies were actually caught and prosecuted by...

Peter Strzok

(from the "if you TRIED to make a movie script out of this, nobody in Hollywood would buy it" file)

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
26. Can she steam your trousers while you're wearing them?
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jul 2018

Those Russian women still don't have the special Hope Hicks skills.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
33. There's nothing like a Republican sex scandal
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jul 2018

especially when they're sleeping with Russian spies.

Gonna need another truckload of popcorn for this.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
35. Adam Schiff bitterly complained that the House Intel committee
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jul 2018

refused to call her in for an interview. The republicans on the House Intel Committee flatly refused to call her before the committee. They were obstructing justice. They were covering for someone, or maybe themselves.

BumRushDaShow

(128,894 posts)
60. Apparently she testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in closed session
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:22 PM
Jul 2018
Alleged Russian agent Maria Butina had ties to Russian intelligence agency, prosecutors say

by Tom Jackman and Rosalind S. Helderman July 18 at 12:26 PM

<...>

FBI agents served a search warrant on Butina’s residence in April, her lawyer, Robert Neil Driscoll, said in court Monday, and he insisted Butina “has been offering to cooperate with the government the entire time.” He also disclosed she had testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in a closed session earlier this year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-had-ties-to-russian-intelligence-agency-prosecutors-say/2018/07/18/a1a4042c-8a01-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html


It's more and more obvious that the House GOP are completely compromised.

Ezior

(505 posts)
37. So US Person 1 is not Rohrabacher
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jul 2018

Because that new court filing says US Person 1 is 56 years old at this time.

Which GOP operative is 56 years old and helps Russian agents contact GOP leaders and other important members of society, because he believes the Russian agent is his "girlfriend"? That US Person 1 also has ties to the NRA, and bragged about his help to establish back channel communication between key GOP figures and the Kremlin through the NRA.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-prosecutors-seek-pretrial-detention-mariia-butina

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
75. This guy...
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jul 2018

"Paul Erickson is an American conservative political operative and lawyer who has been involved in several Republican presidential campaigns.[1][2] He has strong ties to the National Rifle Association and Russian interests and, as of 2017, was subject to federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections."


"According to the United States Department of Justice, Erickson cohabitated with Russian agent Maria Butina [21]."

[link:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erickson_(activist)|

gibraltar72

(7,503 posts)
65. I find it extremely interesting that when Natasha wanted
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jul 2018

to find people that would help overthrow the US government. She didn't go to a Mosque or to an Atheist organization. She went to the NRA, Republican party, National Prayer Breakfast and Trump campaign.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
66. So ...
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jul 2018

ALL of these folks like tRump, putin, Butina are nothing but treasonous, disgusting filth buckets.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
69. The NRA has been compromised. Putin's puppets
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jul 2018

Will they stand up to prove they are true Americans and return the Russian Donations? How many current Republican members of Congress excepted her advances or Russian money, directly or from the NRA?

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