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An Alabama mayor says four members of his city's police force have been suspended for making a hand gesture some say is a hate symbol.
Jasper Mayor David O'Mary tells news outlets the four Jasper officers have been suspended and will lose a week's pay following the publication of a photograph in the Jasper Daily Mountain Eagle on July 12. O'Mary is pictured in that photo alongside several officers, four of whom are making an upside-down "OK" sign with their fingers. He says some have claimed the gesture is meant to express "white power."
The mayor says he arranged that photo to recognize the narcotics team following a drug bust. He says he hasn't asked the officers what they meant by the gesture, but says they showed "poor judgment."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-alabama-police-white-power-gesture-20180717-story.html
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)If we know they are racists, they should be fired. Our police are becoming our enemies.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)Docking a whole week's pay and a suspension should fix that problem.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Not sure about the paid or unpaid.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I'm literally 30 minutes from there. They are trying to whine that it's just a kids game and trying to get other officers to start a "blue flu".
I told them a kkk member told me it was a white power sign. They doubted this person was really kkk.. I gave them a phone number this kid gave me to prove he was kkk.. Thy still denied it was true and claimed they weren't going to call a strange number but I know they did, lol. They gave theirself away. They just refuse to admit their cop friends are racists.
Scary part.. these guys are our local paramedics and firefighters. One local firefighter has already threatened to put my fb pics on porn not knowing he couldn't see pics of me.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)You and probably the KKK member (if is a real KKK member and not some kid just spouting off stuff he saw online) your talking to have both fallen hook, line and sinker for a well documented trolling by 4chan.
https://www.adl.org/blog/no-the-ok-gesture-is-not-a-hate-symbol
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)The kid is straight up racist, but you call and see if you think the kid is just spouting off stuff. I've called the number several times myself when I give it to someonel else. Yesterday's message was the tamest I've heard so far.
336 432 0386
I don't hear many people defending racists.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Im not even sure why your throwing out a KKK number from NC to have to do with a kid you supposedly know in Alabama, but thats a well known and longstanding phone # of a KKK group of about 13 people in NC. What does that do to prove anything other than you could google and find the well known KKK voicemail line?
I posted the well researched and documented link to the ADL website where they document just what and where this cane from.
If you want to believe the random racist kid you say you know instead, knock yourself out.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)He is a much more convincing racist than you are whatever you are saying you are.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)This is absurd. The circle game has been a thing since I was in high school. And for a white the deputies I worked with played it.
The entire claim that the OK sigh is a white supremacist symbol came from a 4chan trolling operation where they made it up. Thats it. No evidence was ever seen it was ever actually used by a hate group before 4chan put it out there and none after aside from some wannabes who believed the trolling.
I track hate groups and speech and such online for my job. The entire claim that the OK sign is a white power symbol was made up by trolls from 4chan and aside from that has zero origins in any actual use by hate groups.
But because people jump off without facts or without caring about facts they suspend them? Really?
These officers were suspended for playing a very minor prank because the cities mayor fell for a 4chan prank and isnt smart enough to even bother looking up to see what it is and, by his own words, didnt even ask the officers.
I have no idea what these officers believe on racial issues or anything related. But I can tell you that after being suspended for that kind of nonsense on such a weak accusation of racism that has no proof other than a 4chan prank all of them are probably less likely to take real claims of racial bias seriously when they have seen themselves punished based on pretty much no evidence ot basis in reality.
People need to at least do a tiny bit of research before jumping off the handle and doing things like suspending people.
https://www.adl.org/blog/no-the-ok-gesture-is-not-a-hate-symbol
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)The real world doesnt work like that.
Just like when actual racist cops do actual racist stuff it makes people in minority communities who are on the receiving end less likely to trust LE based on experience, when have cops who are falsely accused of racism and disciplined based on totally bogus justification its going to shade how they view future complaints of racism.
Thats how the world works.
Had the mayor of this town been even a little bit responsible and done even a tiny bit of research into the claims that this was racist then any rational person would have seen there is zero evidence this is a racist symbol.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Doesnt mean its meaningless- or a crotch joke from 20-30 years ago. Racsist are actually using it as a symbol.
But you go blame people who are trying to protect citizens from racist cops, because it all came from 4chan and......
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Weird assumption that trolling isnt a real thing that can be racist - or that it doesnt matter because it was on the net? Or just defending cops because you were LEO.
And I am neither a liar or stupid- so fucking spare me. Your logic sucks here. Sometimes self professed experts are clueless. Cultural catchphrases and symbols are ever evolving, they change and spread via the internet. Doesnt matter that it started as a joke- it started as a racist joke.