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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 06:04 AM Jul 2018

Trump had irrefutable texts and raw evidence Putin ordered Russian hacks as early as January 2017

Trump had irrefutable texts and raw evidence Putin ordered Russian hacks as early as January 2017: NYT

According to the New York Times, two weeks prior to the Presidential Inauguration in Jan. 2017, Donald Trump was shown raw evidence including data and text messages about the Russian hack and that Vladimir Putin knew about it. He has since been trying to cloud the evidence for reasons still not yet know.

The Times says Trump “was shown highly classified intelligence” proving Putin had personally ordered the cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election. “The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.”

At the time, Trump “sounded grudgingly convinced,” according to several who attended the briefing. Since then, Trump has taken another tactic that calls into question both his judgement and his reasons for continuing to kowtow to Russia over American national security.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/trump-irrefutable-texts-raw-evidence-russian-hack-putin-ordered-january-2017-nyt/

Trump has been knowingly lying about this ever since:

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Trump had irrefutable texts and raw evidence Putin ordered Russian hacks as early as January 2017 (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jul 2018 OP
He is guilty of conspiracy against our country. gademocrat7 Jul 2018 #1
Treason. And high crimes and misdemeanors. calimary Jul 2018 #12
Exactly! Duppers Jul 2018 #15
I'm sure he's told Putin all about this. secondwind Jul 2018 #2
How many of our embedded intelligence agents has he betrayed? Lonestarblue Jul 2018 #5
AND our ambassadors. Our diplomatic corps. calimary Jul 2018 #13
Trump wants to give Putin out former Ambassador to Russia on a silver platter. UCmeNdc Jul 2018 #18
coverup, aided and abetted, in hundreds of tweets bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #3
Vlad has to have Scarsdale Jul 2018 #4
I have said that for a long time mercuryblues Jul 2018 #10
I can hear that lying hog now: LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #6
They are talking about this on 'Morning Joe' (Joe and Mika AREN'T there today) PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #7
He gave Russia top classified information watoos Jul 2018 #8
So I wonder how many of those Russians who KPN Jul 2018 #9
Are you telling me that joshdawg Jul 2018 #11
Trump is a Con Artist -- Con Artists Lie dlk Jul 2018 #14
I will go beyond that. ginnyinWI Jul 2018 #16
I've heard a lot of professional watoos Jul 2018 #17

gademocrat7

(10,656 posts)
1. He is guilty of conspiracy against our country.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 06:19 AM
Jul 2018

The constant barrage of lies and assault on our intelligence agencies has been shocking.He is a traitor. The rethugs are also complicit in the worst betrayal our nation has experienced since Benedict Arnold.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
15. Exactly!
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:39 AM
Jul 2018

That's become a chant at our house.

Until R-controlled congress does something about TRE45ON, we're living in a twilight zone.

Traitors, all of them.

Lonestarblue

(9,980 posts)
5. How many of our embedded intelligence agents has he betrayed?
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 06:43 AM
Jul 2018

The only way to get information this detailed is to have our people close to Putin. How many of them have now been pulled out for their own safety, cutting off the flow of information? How many have died? I remember news stories from last year about the number of Russians who had died mysteriously, something like 12 or 13 I think. Were any of them double agents whose names Trump gave to Putin so he could eliminate them or Trump gave Putin enough information that he could figure out who they were? I’m sure by now that our intelligence groups have learned not to share highly sensitive information about Russia with this traitor. Even with all the information that is coming out, I heard this morning that 35% of Republcans still believe that Russia had nothing to do with the 2016 election. You can’t reach people who have decided to be that stupid.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
13. AND our ambassadors. Our diplomatic corps.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:14 AM
Jul 2018

Because of how Michael McFaul has a big target on his back now. Since when does a (so-called) president even CONSIDER throwing one of our ambassadors to the wolves?

Who the hell wants to risk working in the foreign service for the United States of America knowing that their (so-called) president would throw them to the wolves?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
4. Vlad has to have
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 06:41 AM
Jul 2018

more than just the pee-pee tapes on tRump. After all this time talking about those tapes, people are immune to shocks. What is Vlad hanging over his head, I wonder? Has to be something truly disgusting, or treasonous. tRump acts like a guilty person. He really has very little respect for citizens of this country, since he lies like a rug constantly. He seems to think we are all as dumb as his followers.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
10. I have said that for a long time
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 07:18 AM
Jul 2018

trumps followers would dismiss those just like they did the Access Hollywood tapes, Stormy, and sexualizing his own daughter. He knows this. The evilgelicals would put up a pretense of shock, but not abandon him.

What they have is bigger.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
6. I can hear that lying hog now:
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 06:47 AM
Jul 2018

"Fake news," "It's Obama's fault," "Where's Crooked H's server?," "Comey's a liar," "Clapper's a low- life," Rinse and repeat

Most thuglican's will stay complicit in their Fatso's treason. And, Honey Boo Boo Sanders will continue to lie like a big rug for him

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
7. They are talking about this on 'Morning Joe' (Joe and Mika AREN'T there today)
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 06:48 AM
Jul 2018

It was brought up that a fear is that BLOTUS gave classified information to Putin in their private two hour meeting!

Yeah, that's where we are folks. We're living an unbelievable, treasonous nightmare.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. He gave Russia top classified information
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 07:11 AM
Jul 2018

right in the Oval Office. There is that picture of everyone laughing and having a good time. There was little outrage over that event. Trump, Republican politicians and his zombie base don't care if Putin takes over our country as long as those evil Democrats, those evil non-white people are snuffed out.

In Trump's last 2 treason rallies he started calling himself a super elite and his zombies elitists, in other words, the master race.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
9. So I wonder how many of those Russians who
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 07:15 AM
Jul 2018

have mysteriously died since January 2017 were given up by Trump? I wonder if Trump was under an immediate death threat himself in Helsinki? What else could explain such obviously meek, subservient, whipped dog behavior on his part?

Trump is screwed — and he knows it.

joshdawg

(2,647 posts)
11. Are you telling me that
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 07:28 AM
Jul 2018

Putin's Puppet, aka Traitor Trump, is a liar?!?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell ya.

and in case it's needed:

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
16. I will go beyond that.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:43 AM
Jul 2018

He doesn't have a concept of "truth". He shapes his reality in his own mind and it comes out of his mouth in what to us are lies. He's mentally disturbed and has no moral center. That's why he so easily contradicts himself. Consistency doesn't matter.

The only thing that guides him is saying and thinking what is good for himself, his own ego. He has to be on the winning side at all time. He has a dim intellect and is easily swayed by the last person he listened to. He doesn't think, he reacts to others' thoughts. Every day is a struggle to maintain the sense that he's competent and okay. He brags about himself without shame because he needs to. He's that sick.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
17. I've heard a lot of professional
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 09:00 AM
Jul 2018

mental health experts explain Trump's condition, but I must say that your explanation is the best one I've heard so far.

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