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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:42 AM Jul 2018

Poll: Huge GOP majority backs Trump's Putin performance

We told you yesterday why elected Republicans go so silent so quickly when they disagree so strongly with President Trump: They fear it's political suicide to speak up. Now we have an exclusive, new Axios/SurveyMonkey poll that shows why those fears are real:

Be smart: This poll foreshadows the coming national drama. Every piece of data, and virtually every public action of elected Republican officials, shows Trump will have overwhelming and probably unbreakable party support, regardless of what Robert Mueller finds with his Russia probe.

https://www.axios.com/republicans-poll-donald-trump-press-conference-putin-5776322f-a483-4e21-b50c-028799b08367.html
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Poll: Huge GOP majority backs Trump's Putin performance (Original Post) oberliner Jul 2018 OP
The power of propaganda mikeysnot Jul 2018 #1
Exactly oberliner Jul 2018 #4
Luckily we outnumber them...and the party suppprt ain't 100% beachbum bob Jul 2018 #2
Assume 30% identify as Republican Drahthaardogs Jul 2018 #3
Also have to throw in 33 percent of Independents oberliner Jul 2018 #6
But that 24% is represented by more than 50% of Congress. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #14
Gerrymandering... Drahthaardogs Jul 2018 #27
So a majority of the minority...what? 16-29%? Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #5
But the question is: What will it take? oberliner Jul 2018 #7
No. But we are many, they are few..when the votes are counted right. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #9
We'll have to bring in 30% more voters to barely surpass the Republican machine. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2018 #15
They also have to live in the right states oberliner Jul 2018 #16
We can't think about them, fuck them. Blue_true Jul 2018 #24
Such BS. First, R's are losing numbers making any poll of remaining members more likely hlthe2b Jul 2018 #8
Out of 5 repubs asked...four said they support dt....ahem. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #10
Plus isn't SurveyMonkey an online poll? kcr Jul 2018 #12
yup hlthe2b Jul 2018 #13
The poll does emphasize overall approval oberliner Jul 2018 #18
Title is Deceptive and Tailored to RW audiences. we should NOT enable further. hlthe2b Jul 2018 #20
Seems the opposite - makes RW people appear insane/deranged oberliner Jul 2018 #23
It deceptively suggests widespread support for Trump.. Do you not see that? hlthe2b Jul 2018 #26
The poll is an online poll, the right pack those polls, we seldom do. Blue_true Jul 2018 #25
Bullshit manor321 Jul 2018 #11
Both points are taken oberliner Jul 2018 #19
The sampled an equal percentage of Ds and Rs (39%) John Fante Jul 2018 #17
It's way more than "concern" - it's absolute disgust oberliner Jul 2018 #21
D didn't Nixon win re- election malaise Jul 2018 #22
Who gives a flying fuck. If he shit in their mouths they would call it ice cream. Overwhelm them by LBM20 Jul 2018 #28
68% of one's own party is not a "huge majority" in this polarized environment coti Jul 2018 #29

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
3. Assume 30% identify as Republican
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jul 2018

So it's 79% of 30% of 2100 people, so roughly 500 people out of 2100 or about 24% of the population.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
5. So a majority of the minority...what? 16-29%?
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:47 AM
Jul 2018

Who cares gop?. That needs to be pointed out. They can frame it as though the majority of Americans feel this way, but, WE are the college educated ones. (w the attendant student loans til the grave.)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. But the question is: What will it take?
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jul 2018

Is there anything that will get Republican voters to turn on him? It doesn't seem so.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
9. No. But we are many, they are few..when the votes are counted right.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jul 2018

We have to stick to the plan. We are going to be ok. Just have to clarify.
Getting close to FRIDAY, and we know what happens on FRIDAYS...Mueller time.

15. We'll have to bring in 30% more voters to barely surpass the Republican machine.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jul 2018

GOTV on steroids is going to be the key.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. We can't think about them, fuck them.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:16 PM
Jul 2018

What we need to avoid doing again is tearing our own side apart. When we look past our small differences to vote and vote United, we are unstoppable.

Once our primaries are over, the winner need to be gracious and the loser(s) need to immediately get behind the winner and not do things like not help or imply that the outcome was rigged against them.

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
8. Such BS. First, R's are losing numbers making any poll of remaining members more likely
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jul 2018

to represent the most ardent supporters. Two, any poll that does not emphasize overall approval, rather than only R approval is inherently biased.

Nate Silver took this point on this morning. I'd ask we edit subject lines to reflect, rather than promote this propaganda.


Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
10. Out of 5 repubs asked...four said they support dt....ahem.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:54 AM
Jul 2018

Using the same list of people they know will support the treason from the gop.

kcr

(15,314 posts)
12. Plus isn't SurveyMonkey an online poll?
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:11 AM
Jul 2018

That makes it garbage to begin with. I'm surprised Nate doesn't point that out.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. The poll does emphasize overall approval
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jul 2018

The Vox folks are just expressing some surprise/dismay that the R number is what it is.

It definitely tells you something that the vast majority of R respondents thought Trump did well at the summit.

The headline emphasizes the part of the poll that is disturbing - namely that Republicans are good with Trump no matter what he says or does.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. Seems the opposite - makes RW people appear insane/deranged
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jul 2018

How can anyone in a RW audience not look at that headline and be ashamed?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. The poll is an online poll, the right pack those polls, we seldom do.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:19 PM
Jul 2018

In such a poll, if Trump is getting anything less than Kim or Putin level approval, he is failing.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Both points are taken
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:06 PM
Jul 2018

I think it's noteworthy to see the disapproval numbers among most people and the disturbingly high approval numbers among Rs.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
17. The sampled an equal percentage of Ds and Rs (39%)
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jul 2018

That's bullshit for a number of reasons. But your concern is noted, OP.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. It's way more than "concern" - it's absolute disgust
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jul 2018

The fact that there is literally nothing that Trump can do that would get Republicans to turn on him makes me sick to my stomach.

I am glad that their numbers are small - but how messed up is it that they are still standing with him even after Helsinki in such high percentages?

Doesn't that make you sick also?

malaise

(268,693 posts)
22. D didn't Nixon win re- election
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jul 2018

And still have to resign.
The rule of law is not a popularity contest

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
28. Who gives a flying fuck. If he shit in their mouths they would call it ice cream. Overwhelm them by
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 03:43 PM
Jul 2018

winning Indies and get massive numbers of Dems to go vote.

coti

(4,612 posts)
29. 68% of one's own party is not a "huge majority" in this polarized environment
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 03:47 PM
Jul 2018

That's quite weak, actually.

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