NoShit...this conjob is finished....

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[DemKittyNC]

1. I guess I am just not an optimist but...

I am not seeing him going anywhere anytime soon when he should had been impeached WAY long ago! I have never been this scared in my entire life for my country, WTFHell?!

[BigmanPigman]

2. You and me both!

[dameatball]

3. Helsinki has not changed my Trump loving relatives one bit. They just say he misspoke.

[DemKittyNC]

6. That is so depressing to read. (

I have totally disowned all my family that voted for that traitorous bastard. I have no idea how they feel now. I haven't talked to them since he was elected. I refuse to talk to anyone I know who voted for the traitor in chief.

[Saguaro]

9. But it is changing the narrative

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The word "treason" and its variants are now being openly used by the media, current and former government officials, as well as former military brass. Who cares if it doesn't change the opinion of a bunch of knuckle-draggers who have no grasp of the severity of the situation. They are irrelevant. They don't make up an sizeable enough portion of the population to swing the vote. Trump is rapidly losing support with farmers and business owners, thanks to his moronic trade war. He and the GOP will not have the support they enjoyed in 2016.

[sprinkleeninow]

43. And 'subversion' that took place Monday in Helsinki. eom

[exboyfil]

51. Sonny Perdue has

his $30B checkbook to turn those frowns to smiles in the soybean belt. Just wait and see.

[cadaverdog]

32. OTOH, I have been hosting by sister from Florida

this past week, and she says her son - who is an Annapolis grad and future "captain of industry" - has admitted that voting for Trump was the worst mistake of his life. He cannot be the only Republican out there who feels this way, and it won't take many disenchanted party members like him to help swing the results to the Democrats, assuming we all
GET OUT AND VOTE!

[lark]

52. Our friend who is a business owner and ex-military says voting for drumpf was worst decision ever.

He can't wait until his next opportunity to vote against 45. He's still a moderate repug, unfortunately, but he is 100% American and has realized that drumpf is a criminal traitor, loon & racist hater.

[pnwmom]

35. What are they saying about his willingness to consider letting our former Ambassador

be interrogated by the KGB?

[shanny]

38. Harp on how WEAK he was:

what an asskisser / bootlicker / puppet / puppy / poodle; how he made America look weak; how--watching--no one would ever know that one country has a $20-trillion economy and the other 1/16th of that. Ask them to guess which "leader" was leading which: the one who was asking to interview OUR AMBASSADOR and others, or the one who thought it was an "interesting idea." Ask who was the strong man on that stage and how do they feel about that? Ask how they feel about national sovereignty and preserving it for us Exceptional Americans. Ask them.

They hate weak.

[calimary]

71. NOBODY wants to admit they were wrong, much less that they've been HAD.

Particularly if you or anyone else they know tried to talk sense into them, and their hearts, and probably a fair amount of their extra money in campaign donations or orders for MAGA hats, already belonged to CONman Don.

NOBODY likes to, or wants to, admit they've been fooled, or conned, or that they bought the bullshit retail (NOT wholesale), or that they ATE the bullshit and swallowed it without chewing it up first.

A good friend of mine - to whom I've referred often here, who's been a loyal and thoroughly in-denial trump/pence supporter, has been MIGHTY quiet over the past several days. Actually - a week. Ever since the indictments a week ago today. MIGHTY quiet.

John Heilemann on MSNBC just stated "no one who's sensible can deny it now." He had quite a bit to say about it: "there is no one in the country right now who's not impaired or a moron who doesn't see that donald trump is in THE BAG for Vladimir Putin at the end of this week." He quoted David Ignatius and others that "you can hear the fabric of the presidency ripping this week." He added "no one who's sensible can deny it now." He called it "a fundamental truth" that NOBODY can deny at this point.

Btw - there was also talk on that show that Roger Stone is in big trouble, and now not just a "subject" but a "target" of the Mueller probe. Which sure warms the cockles of this reporter's heart! And Michael Avenatti was rather insistent that it's not just one tape

LORDY there's more than tape. There's KARMA to face. And HELL to pay.

This is starting to get rather delicious. Especially with new word that there's such a thing as a "Manhattan Madam" involved now, too, and evidently already having agreed to accept a subpoena.

[Ferrets are Cool]

19. I will believe it when I see it....and maybe not even then. nt

[RandomAccess]

24. Yeah -- I'd love to believe it, but I don't "feel" it either.

Not when the GOP in Congress backed off their criticism post haste once that bogus "misspoke" lie got floated.

[Honeycombe8]

39. Me, too. Not until McConnell & Ryan say so, is it over. nt

[BlancheSplanchnik]

69. I long to see them indicted

There must be something on them both.

[The Liberal Lion]

59. Agreed

I think it's a pipe dream to think pubs are going to get rid of trump. To believe they will to to believe they are sorry for allowing him to get this far. Clearly they are not. Already the apologia is in full tilt. It's time for folks to acknowledge just what we have and decide just what they are going to do.

[Phoenix61]

4. Please, please, please be true

If we had impeached Twitler months ago all the ugly Manafort, Cohen, NRA crap wouldn't have come out. IMHO, Mueller wants all the fish, from the teeny tiny minnows to the great big whales and that takes time.

[Hoyt]

5. True, but we don't have time. Enough has come out recently to close this out

with a preliminary report, even if all the dots aren’t totally connected.

[leftieNanner]

17. We don't have much time. Agreed.

But I want these treason weasels in jail. Especially the Trump spawn. And maybe Pence. Definitely McConnell and Ryan. Oh, my list is very long. And I want Mueller to do this right so these creeps can't slither out of trouble.

[Hoyt]

26. I get. Feel the same way. But I'll take him walking to the helicopter like Nixon over

sending him to jail if we have to wait years to get him.

We could still throw his aides and kids in jail later.

[leftieNanner]

60. Me too

I want him out of our house!

[TNLib]

7. I'd like to believe this and I think it will happen in time

But in the mean time Putin is doing damage via 45.

[tiptonic]

12. So true

You are absolutely correct. I hope we still have a country by the time that 'very stable genius' is gone. A close friend of mine, who was in military intelligence in the Army, made a very interesting point. Putin is being drawn out in the light (like a cockroach) now. That means he's making more enemies of his own. Some of his oligarchs are getting nervous. We can only hope.

[lpbk2713]

8. How much more will the (R) Congs take?

There has got to be a point where even the most hard core rethug will say "that's enough" .

[sandensea]

15. As much as they can possibly get away with.

They're absolutely counting on Putin's vote flippers to put them over the top in the mid-terms.

[Initech]

42. Never! Republicans are like this:

We've learned that there is no low they won't stoop to, short of genocide or civil war.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

10. Now I feel like it's...

Not ”If” but ”when”.

Big difference.

[ffr]

11. NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER. The day to remember.

Join Michelle Obama in getting out the vote. Get voters registered. Get those of voting age to vote as if their lives depended on it.

All for one and one for all.

[Evergreen Emerald]

54. It is rigged Russian style

I am of the opinion that the coop took over, without us even knowing it, or fully believing it.

If we win in the midterms, I will be surprised.

[RainCaster]

13. The Mango Molester told us about a Red Wave

I'm thinking of the Russian flag

[RocRizzo55]

14. Tell that to

the MAGAts and the Trumpanzees. They don't care, they still grovel at his feet.

[pbmus]

16. The minority will not be in power for much longer...

[LiberalLovinLug]

18. I hate these false hope OPs worse than having to look at Trumps face

And that is one of the most horrible sights. Even IF the end is near, which I highly doubt, these kinds of baseless wishmongerings can result in folks taking their feet off of the gas pedal, even if slightly.

There is zero guarantee that the GOP will consider impeachment even if Trump is indicted. Especially if their base back home is threatening to vote them out of they dare.

[pbmus]

20. I am not ,nor am I purporting to take my foot off the pedal....

My family is currently involved in every aspect of securing a democratic win in local, regional, state, and federal elections....precinct persons to breakfast volunteers, to knocking on doors to campaign financing to calling and texting to get vote out.....

And that is just the start of me and my families participation...

[Raster]

21. It is going to take a MASSIVE GOTV EFFORT...

...and I do mean MASSIVE.

Picture 100,000,000 people voting in the mid-terms to repeal and replace the GOP.

[Garrett78]

25. 100 million total would be impressive.

100 million voting for Democrats isn't going to happen.

[bearsfootball516]

28. That's a pretty nice picture.

But if 65 million came out for Hillary in 2016, 100 million aren’t going to come out in a non-Presidential year.

I do think we might have record Democratic turnout for midterms, though. I’d actually be surprised if we didn’t.

[LanternWaste]

61. I get it.

I'm frustrated as well by the doom and gloom, civil-war-is-about-to-come-down, America's-broken-and-can-never-be-fixed, sub-literate tripe that I read three to four times a day on DU.

[Owl]

72. I agree. Trump ain't going anywhere. GOP will stick with him.

[VOX]

22. Not when 68% of Republicans approve of 45's handling his summit in Helsinki.

They are sticking with their dotard, per a new CBS poll. And only 38% of Republicans are concerned about Russian influence in the upcoming 2018 election. VOTE, VOTE, VOTE.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-trump-putin-meeting-helsinki-summit-russia-election-meddling/

[Az_lefty]

23. Vlad has something big on Donnie & I'm sure it's $$$$

[johnp3907]

27. I remember the grave dancing when the Access Hollywood tape hit the news.

Let’s be smart. Let’s do the work.

[xeodtech]

29. Not that easy.. it's the whole party

Maria Butina's arrest the connections to Scott Walker and Rick Snyder not to mention Chris Koback.... The whole party is a corrupt mafioso Kremlin party...... Not sure how we stop this with the idiots I talk with every day...

[Beantighe]

30. I don't think he's finished at all

He won't be finished until we manage to turn out in huge numbers and a "blue wave" actually happens. We must have numbers large enough to overcome the cheating! Of course, I really hope I'm wrong.

[Blue Owl]

31. The trash stinks -- get it outta here

[Bernardo de La Paz]

33. Has that feel of over, but ... I thought we had turned a corner on the Trump Child Abductions.

Somehow that wasn't enough.

[Eyeball_Kid]

34. Schindler might be engaging in wishful thinking.

He'd like to believe that his former employers are still in control. That's nice.

But we are expected to believe that the worm has turned when the worm's turning isn't in view.

Believing in Schindler, right now, takes the same kind of blind faith that Trumpies use.

We have to SEE something that will convince us that Schindler's beliefs are more than good dreams.

Yes, we know that the IC is alarmed. Yes, it's common sense to estimate that the IC will push back. But where's the push-back? Does it begin with today's Coates interview? And what would make the push back devastating to Trumpy's position as president? Is the GOP really distancing itself from the dictator yet? Where are the ACTIONS that illustrate this?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

36. I won't believe that until I see him doing the perp walk into a federal courthouse.

As long as the servile, complicit GOP controls Congress they'll prop him up and he'll get away with all of it.

[radical noodle]

37. I feel a difference too

It's the panic in the trumper circles and the ratcheting up of the opposition to a much higher pitch.

[catbyte]

40. I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe I'm too cynical, but the GOP is already denying states

funds to harden voting machines against Midterms cyber attacks. I think they were planning their strategy in Moscow over the 4th. We're fucked unless Mueller can act fast.

[aggiesal]

49. And this morning, ...

House republicans pass a bill to cancel out all election security funding.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210900506

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/07/house-dems-chant-usa-republicans-strip

[Kablooie]

41. There is a difference but it won't tip yet.

The ship will right itself soon and continue on it's merry, traitorous way.

It's just a deeper tip than before but Republicans still overwhelmingly approve of his Russian foray.
To them, Russia deciding our elections for us is not an important problem.
Especially when they fix the elections for Republicans. (if they fixed one for Democrats, well, you know. )

Until we feel a solid crack in their base nothing at all will change. Nothing.

(Of course if Dems take control of government, that's a different story. )

[Cosmocat]

44. Good post

It definitely was a moment that did calcify the media a bit, did bring some People out of the dark, but it isnt a game changer, and time will fade its impact.

The one thing that was different about it to me, is that followed up with the indictments on Friday, and how much detail they had about what was going on over in Russia, I think Muller clearly has what he needs the start dropping the hammer the Trump Inner Circle.

But, Dems need to win and not just buy one or two seats the house in November, or it might be game over.

[Kablooie]

46. If the November elections are honest and fair I think there will be a blue tsunami, but ...

Russians are still doing everything they can to keep Republicans in control.
Yes some of their tactics have been checkmated but I'm sure they still have a deep bag of tricks left.

And now it looks like Republicans, while saying we must prevent Russia's involvement, are implementing measures that could assist Russia in manipulating votes.

November's results are not a sure thing.
There are forces at work on opposite sides of the world that want to prevent Democrats from gaining control of our government.

[dhol82]

66. I think the concept of honest and free elections belongs in the past

We know that the vote tallies will be manipulated in some fashion.
To win, we need a massive turnout so big that fudging the results will be impossible.
GOTV!

[jpak]

45. Trump has that "Ned Beatty" look on his face

And Putin looks like Moonshiner.

[3Hotdogs]

47. its too complex for the Trumpers to understand. The Russians got him their president and that's all

that matters.

He makes fun of people they feel superior to and that's what counts.

[durablend]

68. "and it pisses the left off"

"Good enough for us...to hell with that democracy crap"

[Oneironaut]

48. It had no effect whatsoever. The Trump cult continues to support him.

There is absolutely nothing he could do that would lose their support. Trump openly lied to their faces about "really meaning that he didn't see a reason why the hacking *wouldn't* be Russia!" and they all bought it like complete idiots. Fooling them requires almost no effort.

[ksoze]

50. Nope. 80% of Repub's think Helsinki was a success

And that will dictate the GOP moves.

[Beaverhausen]

53. Dream on everybody

I don't believe it. There seems to be nothing this man does that his cult doesn't defend.

[KPN]

55. Meanwhile, the MSM blasts headlines that Pompeo says "those allegations are absurd" about

Trump's treasonous performance in Helsinki, and basically denies that Trump agreed to entertain the "incredible offer" Putin made to allow Mueller to sit in on Russian interviews with the 12 indicted Russians in exchange for Russia questioning U.S. officials including Ambassador McFaul. Nevermind that the submissive, weak-ass moron actually said as much in the Helsinki news conference.

And Trump voters who don't already love Russia more than the USA are reassured.

[ScratchCat]

56. There's a difference between

his cult followers and people who simply voted for him. His cult followers are less than 50% of the GOP. While these folks will stick with him till the end, the majority of Republicans who simply voted for him because they were convinced by two decades of the right wing hate machine that Clinton was pure evil. The latter group - among themselves - know and talk about the mistake they made.

I think this has made many finally realize they can get through anything they want with Pence as President and that Trump has to go. Its not getting "better" from this point; his support isn't going to increase ever again.

We are just over 1.5 years into his term - you really think the way this is going that it is even plausible that they can let him run for re-election? Again, it can only get worse from here. Indictments are coming. They will be as detailed as the ones from last Friday. Nobody who wants to retain a lick of crdibility is going to be able to continue the "witch hunt" nonsense when the indictments against Stone, Jr., Hicks, Kushner and the rest come down. They already established the conspiracy last Friday with the indictments. Now, anyone involved in the crime will be charged as being part(cover-up included). Trump had knowledge of the Trump Tower meeting; he will be listed as an un-indicted co-conspirator on the charging documents. Book it.

[DrDan]

65. lol - not even close

[Garrett78]

57. Helsinki didn't even budge the needle, much less end the Trump-Putin regime.

And just as family separation and children in cages fell off the radar, this too shall pass.

[CrispyQ]

58. There's an old saying about counting your electronic votes before they've been tabulated.

[DrDan]

62. DOW is up, unemployment is very low, cult supports him 90%

70% of gop thinks Helsinki was a win for him

I think he will be difficult to beat

[0rganism]

63. uh... no

sorry, but that's not the story we're in
Trump is consolidating power within the GOP
the GOP congress supports him on almost everything, because if they don't they get tossed in the primaries
this is not the end of the road

[niyad]

64. trump--the REAL teflon president. I don't see him going anywhere, not with those gutless, spieless

cowards in congress.

[calimary]

67. When I saw that "incredible deal" part, it looked, to me, as though trump were doing PR for putin.

It looked for all the world like trump was Putin's sales guy, or press agent, promoting and otherwise talking up his client's latest big idea. In this case, the "incredible" offer to "work together" on the Mueller probe (and work Michael McFaul and other Americans OVER, but good, after trump hands them over to Putin's "interrogators&quot .

[Grammy23]

70. Yep. He is softening up his base to accept any cockamamie idea that is floated.

He has to get them used to the idea and make them decide if tRump thinks it is good, it MUST be alright. He grooms them to accept ideas that would have gotten Obama tossed out on his ear. If they had any knowledge of history, any critical thinking skills, they would reject everything he proposes. But they don’t and is one of the reasons they glommed on to him in the first place. He made it seem so simple. And he did all the “thinking” for them.