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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:07 PM Jul 2018

The significance of Trump's tweet this morning...

...about his lawyer perhaps "illegally" recording their conversation?

The very fact that it was not about Putin, or Helsinki, or his National Security team was significant. It is possible that they were attempting to change the subject? But, more likely, this was the topic that was occupying their minds the most at this time? Why?

Because it is important to them. They feel threatened by these tapes. They are trying to get out in front of this story. This story is the one that bothers them the most at this time. That is the significance of his tweet this morning.

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The significance of Trump's tweet this morning... (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2018 OP
When your entire existance is based on maintaining lies... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #1
Very true. kentuck Jul 2018 #4
trump always fretted/agitated/ worried, a lot empedocles Jul 2018 #2
There is only one little hitch to that premise Best_man23 Jul 2018 #3
I wonder what the long term effect on all of us of having to deal with the constant barage hlthe2b Jul 2018 #5
A very valid concern. kentuck Jul 2018 #6
Inconceivable! Towlie Jul 2018 #7
Beautiful!!!! ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2018 #10
Thank you, I've been concerned no one else caught this. uppityperson Jul 2018 #14
when I google "inconceivable meaning", the definition given has an interesting and up-to-date usage gristy Jul 2018 #16
George Carlin thought 'inconceivable' would be a good brand name for condoms Achilleaze Jul 2018 #17
Thank you for my laugh of the day! MaryMagdaline Jul 2018 #18
Ha! uppityperson Jul 2018 #19
Favorite President, My Ass! ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2018 #8
Isn't New York one of those states that doesn't require both parties to know a Vinca Jul 2018 #9
Yes, NY is a one-party consent state. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #12
Unless they can get a favorable judge to make a ruling on the other tapes ?? kentuck Jul 2018 #13
Theory that dT's lawyers released to cut Cohen defense at the knees, less viable to actually flip pioche4 Jul 2018 #11
Donald lives in NY, Donald's Lawyer lives in NY.... Historic NY Jul 2018 #15
So civil rights only matter when we're talking about the blotard. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2018 #20
Since it was Trump's lawyer who released its existence, wouldn't it make sense for Cohen to OnDoutside Jul 2018 #21

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
1. When your entire existance is based on maintaining lies...
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:08 PM
Jul 2018

any evidence of reality contrary to the lie is dangerous.

Best_man23

(4,897 posts)
3. There is only one little hitch to that premise
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jul 2018

New York is a one-party consent state for recording conversations.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
5. I wonder what the long term effect on all of us of having to deal with the constant barage
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:12 PM
Jul 2018

of his tweets and lies--and the need to take time to try to analyze the TRUE tactics/strategy/agenda behind them.

Beyond being exhausting and irritating--often blood pressure raising, I fear he is turning the entire population into one forever burdened with Attention Deficit Disorder.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
7. Inconceivable!
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jul 2018

Inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer’s office (early in the morning) - almost unheard of. Even more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client - totally unheard of & perhaps illegal. The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 21, 2018

gristy

(10,667 posts)
16. when I google "inconceivable meaning", the definition given has an interesting and up-to-date usage
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 01:16 PM
Jul 2018

in·con·ceiv·a·ble

/ˌinkənˈsēvəb(ə l/

adjective: inconceivable

not capable of being imagined or grasped mentally; unbelievable.
"it seemed inconceivable that the president had been unaware of what was going on"

synonyms: unbelievable, beyond belief, incredible, unthinkable, unimaginable, extremely unlikely;

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
8. Favorite President, My Ass!
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:16 PM
Jul 2018


Perhaps Michael Cohen realized..... "NEVER take Donald Trump at his word. He will deny ever knowing you."

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
9. Isn't New York one of those states that doesn't require both parties to know a
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jul 2018

conversation is being recorded? It might be an ethical violation if Cohen was acting as an attorney, but Don complaining about ethics is ludicrous.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
12. Yes, NY is a one-party consent state.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jul 2018

I don't think taping the conversation was necessarily an ethical violation either - depending on what was to be done with the tapes. Maybe Cohen was making tapes for a future memoir (in which case there could be a problem with attorney-client privilege, although apparently this particular tape was cleared), or maybe he was taping Trump to protect himself from "misunderstandings" - that is, Trump's lies. We know that in civil cases involving Trump his own lawyers always met with him in pairs because they didn't trust him to be honest about the advice he was being given.

pioche4

(114 posts)
11. Theory that dT's lawyers released to cut Cohen defense at the knees, less viable to actually flip
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jul 2018

If the conversation was privileged, prosecutors didn't have it. I anticipate more releases like this by dT's lawyers to continue to change the media focus.

So question...why would it be considered privileged by Special Master, if its a discussion about committing a crime? Also, on Maddow last night, writer Emily Jane Fox, said the tape conversation is not as it was described by Guilianni..., big surprise. Things are always the opposite of what dT's posse says.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
15. Donald lives in NY, Donald's Lawyer lives in NY....
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 01:11 PM
Jul 2018

he might want people to think it was illegal. In Ny it is legal.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
21. Since it was Trump's lawyer who released its existence, wouldn't it make sense for Cohen to
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 07:01 PM
Jul 2018

release it asap, such as 9am on Monday morning ? Guiliani may be expecting that it wouldn't be released for months and then they can say we already dealed with it.

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