Is this conspiracy as complex and entangled as it seems?

[kentuck]

Because it seems like every time someone pulls a thread, some other connection begins to unravel? But it is all interconnected in one way or the other? And it all seems to run thru Russia and Trump?

Are we all just paranoid and creating conspiracy theories out of thin air? I don't think so.

Someone is going to great efforts to hide the truth from the people.

The unknown is a terrible burden for people to carry.

[Turbineguy]

1. Well, it must less complicated than

Whitewater, Obama stealing the election in 2008, and Benghazi. After all, nobody got caught.

[Sneederbunk]

2. Simply follow the money. Clarifies everything.

[samnsara]

3. im still trying to get my head around TRMS theory of teamTrump releasing the Cohen tape..

...not quite sure how that works..

[Quemado]

8. Long story short: Trump took a bargaining chip away from Cohen

The Special Master appointed by the Court deemed the tape to be privileged communication between Trump and his lawyer at the time, Cohen. Therefore, the prosecution could not use it as evidence. Since it appeared that Cohen is in the process of negotiating a plea deal with the prosecution, Cohen could use the tape as a bargaining chip in negotiating that deal. Trump's legal team decided to release the privilege so that Cohen could not use the tape as a bargaining chip. Trump took a bargaining chip away from Cohen.

[shanny]

11. I think she has it backwards.

I don't think Cohen gives a rip about his law license at this point...and he has much less to lose than donnie boy. This was the final warning: protect me or I will burn you.

[NCTraveler]

4. There are some things that I and others...

Rightfully claimed to be conspiracy theories two years ago that are proven fact today.

That’s one of the interesting and fun parts about conspiracy theories. Floating one off of idle speculation and then waiting for it to materialize.

[Loki Liesmith]

5. Its complex because they are incompetent

[RockRaven]

6. If you are a criminal and grifter deep in your bones then everything you do is corrupt

and everyone you surround yourself with is either corrupt themselves or using your corruption to their own ends, without it necessarily being a unified, coherent, organized, pre-planned scheme.

[beachbum bob]

7. really not complex, trump got invovled with russian mob money 20 years ago

so the big obstacle was getting trump to run for president.

Everything is is the natural chaos what follows the imbecile. Putin's plan is to destroy America from within and we are witnessing it first hand.

The GOP is ill prepared for all this and gotta love the fact that are screwed no matter what they do. We here in DU will be the heroes who take our country back starting in November

[RandomAccess]

9. It's enormously complex --

because it involves stuff the Russians have been doing to infiltrate the U.S. on many different levels for decades now. There are scads of people involved.

AND it involves criminality on the part of the Trump family that may or may not have anything to do with Russian Active Measures (e.g., tax evasion, Trump Foundation fraud, and who knows what else?)

I get overwhelmed imagining the scope of the whole thing, personally, and I don't even know that much about it.


20:30 5/10/2018
For those who like visual guides, here is a chart of the mobsters https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210597884
I opened it to a single web page and hit the enlarge keys. Browsing is worth the time.



TIMELINE
A timeline of events that unfolded during the election appears to support the FBI's investigation into Trump and Russia http://www.businessinsider.com/updated-trump-russia-election-timeline-fbi-2017-3

The Long, Twisted, and Bizarre History of the Trump-Russia Scandal
Here's the timeline you need to keep track of the controversy.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/03/exhaustive-history-donald-trump-russia-scandal-timeline

ATLEE INVESTIGATES LLC http://www.atleeinvestigates.com/
On this page, you can find documents related to TRUMP, MONEY LAUNDERING, MURDER, and much more!

A Timeline: Russia and President Trump http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/


THE MOSCOW PROJECT https://themoscowproject.org/

[WhiteTara]

10. It is not so complex as it is vast

Remember when Hillary noted the vast right wing conspiracy? It's just metastasized.

[dameatball]

12. I think this investigation will continue in many venues, in many forms, for a long time.

The corruption is just too deeply embedded among multiple countries.

[kentuck]

13. Sometimes it seems like the criminals and the oligarchs are stronger than....

....all the governments in the world?

Who's really calling the shots?

[dameatball]

15. I hate to think that, but not much would surprise me.

[panader0]

14. This isn't just a can of worms, or a bucket of worms.

Or a barrel of worms. This is an Olympic sized pool full of worms,
writhing.....