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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 10:57 AM Jul 2018

Good thread documenting how NYT Maggie Haberman shills for Trump

An excerpt:

Of course you could disregard the fact that Maggie Haberman wrote 94 articles on Hillary's emails & Benghazi (combined) and ZERO on Trump's longstanding connections to mafia/mob/Felix Sater/racism.

That in itself might be a coincidence. What's not a coincidence is every time Donald Trump has got himself into serious hot water, Maggie Haberman has been on hand to lend a helping hand. 2011: Birtherism & Maggie runs PR piece stating how rich he is.

2016: Access Hollywood & Maggie runs a sympathy piece.

2017: Obamacare Repeal fail and Donald calls Maggie to give a world exclusive interview.

2017: Charlottesville "both sides" & Maggie runs "not racist" piece. Is Maggie Haberman a shill for Donald Trump? Has she carried water for him?

The answer depends on your perspective but she definitely relies on access to Trump World.

What I do know is when Donald is in trouble he runs to Maggie to get his side of the story out. For a guy who criticizes the Fake News media so much, it's interesting he has given Maggie over 20 on record exclusive interviews over the last 7 years.

I have little doubt "John Barron" was one of her many anonymous sources over the years. I could have included dozens of other examples in this thread but the pattern and theme is clear for all to see. Stating it's "impossible to independently verify" someone's net worth and then writing an article emphatically stating their net worth to be 3x higher than Forbes estimates, based on one anonymous source in the Trump Organization..

That isn't journalism. That is free PR work. Writing an article asserting someone is not a racist because he once dated a biracial woman and once had some black friends, while ignoring mountains of evidence of racism...



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Good thread documenting how NYT Maggie Haberman shills for Trump (Original Post) ehrnst Jul 2018 OP
Yet he claims he doesn't know her!1 UTUSN Jul 2018 #1
He threw her a couple of boilerplate insults - to give her credibility and mask her complicity: dalton99a Jul 2018 #2
By not lumping her in with the usual "fake news" crowd, this may oasis Jul 2018 #8
Maggie..the same Haberman who pulled back from twitter becz - asiliveandbreathe Jul 2018 #3
KR Me. Jul 2018 #4
Disgusting but not at all surprising. LonePirate Jul 2018 #5
K & R revmclaren Jul 2018 #6
America needs journalists, not apolgists Achilleaze Jul 2018 #7
deja vu all over again dem in texas Jul 2018 #9
I asked last night if she had been dubbed the "new Judith Miller". peekaloo Jul 2018 #17
Mother knows best PR neohippie Jul 2018 #10
Think we're going to find out that . . . peggysue2 Jul 2018 #11
This! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #12
Maggie the Maggot sandensea Jul 2018 #13
I have a big problem with attacks by anonymous twitter users without backup karynnj Jul 2018 #14
The other issue jayschool2013 Jul 2018 #15
Great point karynnj Jul 2018 #16
It's stenography, not journalism. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #18
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #19
I do wonder what links will be uncovered in time between she and...who knows what. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #20

oasis

(49,376 posts)
8. By not lumping her in with the usual "fake news" crowd, this may
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jul 2018

Last edited Mon Jul 23, 2018, 12:24 PM - Edit history (1)

be Trump's sly way of keeping her around so she can continue with her soft pedaling. The idea may have sprung from Steven Miller, since Trump can't stand anything in newsprint that isn't totally positive.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. Maggie..the same Haberman who pulled back from twitter becz -
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 11:06 AM
Jul 2018

The viciousness, toxic partisan anger and intellectual dishonesty are at all-time highs.

Can we talk about "intellectual dishonesty" - or did someone wuffle poor maggies feathers on twitter....

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
10. Mother knows best PR
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 11:59 AM
Jul 2018

It's her mother I guess...


https://medium.com/@JamesFourM/maggie-duranty-80c8e85c5e88


Nancy Haberman, Maggie’s mother, works for the PR firm, Rubenstein, which was founded by Howard Rubenstein — a PR legend, who was once called “the dean of damage control” by Rudy Giuliani.

At Rubenstein, Nancy Haberman is no coffee girl. Her bio lists her as Executive Vice President, and gives her history as “Rubenstein, Home with kids for six years, Harper and Row Publishers, New York Post.” Later in her bio, it states, “Has a family of journalists. And the kids she was home with now have kids of their own.” Nancy’s area of expertise: “Traditional media, i.e. print, radio, and broadcast. Big emphasis on New York media. General interest stories, medical, breaking news, nonprofits, education… Lends media support to other people’s clients with her relationships established over 30 years.”

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
11. Think we're going to find out that . . .
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 12:01 PM
Jul 2018

Haberman was not alone in the 'stealth campaigning' for the Trumpsters. This goes beyond the claim of but we must have access to do our jobs and rolls into willful cooperation. We all remember the shrill cry: but her emails, her emails when the Trumpster's history of mob ties and Russian links--though known and documented--were ignored.

Once the dust settles there will be lots of uncomfortable questions for these 'so-called' journalists.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
13. Maggie the Maggot
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 12:21 PM
Jul 2018

Like all state media piglets, she's mostly just hoping to strike it rich by selling herself to these characters.

That of course makes her less a journalist, than a ...

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
14. I have a big problem with attacks by anonymous twitter users without backup
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jul 2018

Though he/she cites a laundry list, none of them contain links to what was written. I opted to look at what she wrote on Charlottesville. In no way was it favorable to Trump. Here are three links to articles that she cowrote.-

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/trump-charlottesville-protest-nationalist-riot.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-charlottesville-white-nationalists.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-press-conference-charlottesville.html (This REPORTS Trump's both sides -- it does not endorse his words. Here, the tweet seems to not understand reporting/journalism vs editorials.)

As to articles on Trump's and Hillary Clinton's issues during the campaign -- that is based on what her ASSIGNMENT was. She was covering Hillary, others covered Trump. Hillary badly mishandled the email mess, changing her story several times. I agree that there are many things we know Trump has done that are each far worse than how Clinton handled her email, but, given that there was demand for emails before she left the State Department, she could have avoided all that by handing over the work emails when she left -- not almost two years later after the SD "negotiated" with her to get them back. The Congressional requests and FOIA would then have been done and no one would ever have known about her server.

The NYT DID have articles that spoke of many negative things in the Trump past. They had front page articles on the racist nature of the Trump family's appartment business, the bankruptcies he had, the fact that he was sent to military school (and unlike many conveyed the truth that this was where a troubled rich kid would be sent) etc. They covered Ivana's charges against him and covered the Access Hollywood accusations and the charges of a Miss America. No, Haberman did not write them -- she was covering Hillary Clinton.

Haberman DID write an article on Access Hollywood -- but in November 2017. It is impossible to see it as positive because it addressed Trump telling people that "it was not his voice". The entire article actually calls his credibility into question - it opens the question of whether he is delusional. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/28/us/politics/trump-access-hollywood-tape.html

I don't think we want to attacking journalists who are doing their job reporting the news. That is where Trump is calling everyone people like Sean Hannity - fake news.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
15. The other issue
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 12:43 PM
Jul 2018

The other issue here is how news organizations divide coverage responsibilities. Just as an example, my job (a long time ago) was to cover the University of Florida athletic department. In the late 1980s, various Gators and coaches were involved in several nefarious goings-on that made them a part of an NCAA investigation, a DEA investigation, an FBI investigation into a prostitution ring, and an OEO investigation into sexual harassment.

While I was a part of the team that investigated the various shenanigans, my byline never appeared on the most salacious stories because of the fear that I would be shut out of the day-to-day coverage of the athletics department. When someone from the AD came to me to ask what the newspaper was doing to them, I could just shrug my shoulders and say it was out of my hands. "I'm just here to cover the games and the athletes," I'd say.

Not saying that's the Times' situation, but it is relatively common practice among large organizations. I know the Times is being aggressive with its investigations of the dumpster fire that is the White House, and even if Maggie's byline isn't on those most aggressive stories, it doesn't mean that she's not a part of them.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
20. I do wonder what links will be uncovered in time between she and...who knows what.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jul 2018

More propaganda, more shilling, more normalization.

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