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MSNBC: "Mike Pence says the Trump tax cuts are increasing pay for workers in Tennessee, but..." (Original Post) Miles Archer Jul 2018 OP
The tax cuts for the working class thing is BS. The few who manage to earn a few extra Vinca Jul 2018 #1
Pence is a known liar. SamKnause Jul 2018 #2
We know they got bupkus, but who else worries that many of them Squinch Jul 2018 #3
Best get used to it. Pence will be our post-impeachment door prize. oasis Jul 2018 #4
Just wait until those 2% who see pay increases watoos Jul 2018 #5
Yeah it will be interesting once they start filing next year. peekaloo Jul 2018 #14
They are so setting this up to bleed the economy for them bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #6
Feudalism... 2naSalit Jul 2018 #15
Dense Pence Racerdog1 Jul 2018 #7
Actual wage performance since the tax heist: Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #8
And the gains in 2017 NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #10
wages have dropped off a cliff NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #9
The unquestioning willingness of Republicans to believe lies. Lonestarblue Jul 2018 #11
They didn't care Jimvanhise Jul 2018 #12
Vice Liar. spanone Jul 2018 #13

Vinca

(50,258 posts)
1. The tax cuts for the working class thing is BS. The few who manage to earn a few extra
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:27 AM
Jul 2018

crumbs end up spending it and then some on the increased cost of health insurance, fuel, food and other basic necessities. Don's con was for the purpose of lining his own pockets and he was successful in that regard.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
2. Pence is a known liar.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:50 AM
Jul 2018

Pence is a Trump butt kissing suck up.

6 months after the fabulous tax cuts wages are down.

Add in the tariffs and they will continue on the downward path.

Supply side economics (trickle down) has never worked and will never work.

Squinch

(50,939 posts)
3. We know they got bupkus, but who else worries that many of them
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:02 AM
Jul 2018

will hear mike pence's mouth dribbles and think, "Really? Its increasing my pay? That's great!"

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. Just wait until those 2% who see pay increases
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:26 AM
Jul 2018

get their tax returns at the end of the year and it is less than last year. Trump can take credit for the pay increase and blame Obama or the Tooth Fairy for the decrease in tax return.

I have been telling people that they are getting more money (a little bit) because less taxes are being taken out. They won't know if they truly did get a little pay increase until they get their tax returns.

peekaloo

(22,977 posts)
14. Yeah it will be interesting once they start filing next year.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:32 AM
Jul 2018

The elimination of the standard exemption was barely whispered while they were boasting about the doubled deduction.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
6. They are so setting this up to bleed the economy for them
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:38 AM
Jul 2018

Tariffs. Money flows to government. Higher prices. More tax cuts for the rich. Inflation. Puffs up corporate financials. Makes people work harder to pay the bills. They are setting us up to be plundered. beware.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. And the gains in 2017
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:26 AM
Jul 2018

were offset by rising gas prices and healthcare costs.

And now in 2018, with healthcare costs projected to rise 90% over the next 3 years, it's looking like an economic disaster for 90% of Americans.

Lonestarblue

(9,967 posts)
11. The unquestioning willingness of Republicans to believe lies.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:51 AM
Jul 2018

One of the biggest differences between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans take at face value any lie told by one of their leaders, even when their own experience—as in receiving no increase in wages from the tax cut—undercuts that lie. In contrast, Democrats question their leaders and want the proof behind the claim, which I think is a more rational approach to government (of course!), though when it’s time to vote, we need to rally behind our candidates and forget the differences. No third party voting or just staying at home.

Jimvanhise

(301 posts)
12. They didn't care
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:19 AM
Jul 2018

If Republicans wanted the tax cuts to reach average Americans they wouldn't have written them so that 83% of the cuts benefited the top 1%. They were so aware of what they were doing that they trotted out a fake average taxpayer who claimed that they'd saved two thousand dollars in taxes even though no one will start saving anything on their taxes until January 2019.

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