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Saviolo

(3,270 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:07 AM Jul 2018

We are already well on the path to fascism. Please listen to this:

So, I started listening to this podcast by Robert Evans after I heard him appear on Cody Johnston (from Some More News and formerly of Cracked) and Katy Stoll's (also from Cracked) podcast Even More News. They had brought him on to talk about the situation in the Middle East, Turkey, and Syria as someone who had done some journalism there, had friends there, and was a bit of an obsessive geek about the situation, so had read a lot about the different groups and their interrelations.

So, Robert Evans has his OWN podcast called Behind the Bastards, which is a look at the (sometimes extremely funny) stories behind some of the worst people in history. So far he's done people like Stalin, Leopold II of Belgium, Bill Cosby, Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Karl May (the author that Hitler was somewhat obsessed with), Harvey Weinstein, and Bill Cosby (among others). He also talks a lot about how many bastards there are behind the scenes for the big bastards to really get firmly situated. You can find the website for his podcast here:

https://www.behindthebastards.com/

This week, however, he had a whole enormous group of bastards to talk about on his podcast. He was talking about all of the non-nazis that led to Hitler's rise. Keep in mind, these were people who said they were not nazis, or even people who disliked and hated the nazis, but enabled and allowed the nazis to rise.

This podcast should be required listening. While you're listening, you may notice a couple of things. 1) There are some chilling parallels to what is going on RIGHT NOW in the USA and elsewhere. And 2) they are really restraining themselves from making obvious and terrifying comparisons to our current situation. The second point is intentional, and they wanted to make sure that this podcast would be accessible to as many people as possible. They didn't want people to tune out as soon as they felt called out, so they saved all of the comparisons to the very end, so you can pass this on to conservative friends and family.

I urge you to give this a listen, because it is chilling. Robert Evans is an obsessive researcher and has put together a really important look at how the very people who say they stand against fascists can enable and lead directly to fascists. I know it's a bit of atime investment at an hour long, but it is absolutely worth it.

Here is a link to the podcast from their website:
https://www.behindthebastards.com/podcasts/the-non-nazi-bastards-who-helped-hitler-rise-to-power.htm

Here is a link to the tweet that links to the iTunes version:




Here is a link to the Google Play version:
https://play.google.com/music/m/Dplzymfclc4bmwqhi7f6aoxpccq?t=The_Non-Nazi_Bastards_Who_Helped_Hitler_Rise_To_Power-Behind_the_Bastards
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We are already well on the path to fascism. Please listen to this: (Original Post) Saviolo Jul 2018 OP
Thhanks for this, bookmarked for later yonder Jul 2018 #1
I recommend the whole podcast, but... Saviolo Jul 2018 #2
Rec'd and bookmarked underpants Jul 2018 #3
A propos matt819 Jul 2018 #4
It's true, Trump is no Hitler Saviolo Jul 2018 #5

Saviolo

(3,270 posts)
2. I recommend the whole podcast, but...
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 11:06 AM
Jul 2018

This episode in particular should be absolutely required listening. The parallels are terrifying.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
4. A propos
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:12 PM
Jul 2018

I started listening to Stormtroopers by Daniel Siemens, a history of the Nazi brownshirts. It's slow going, but interesting.

I raise this because his descriptions of the populism espoused by the Stormtroopers leadership, and Hitler's capitalizing on their devotion, certainly sounds a lot like the alt right and the extreme right in the US today. The rise of the use of violence in carrying out Hitler's message, the devotion to the cause due to camaraderie and a sense of belonging after Germany's devastation in and after WWI certainly sounds like what we hear from the new Nazis and incels and others. Sure, they are not coming from a point of devastation, though it is fair to say that they have been brainwashed into believing otherwise.

I'm not a big fan of podcasts generally, but I'll give this one a listen. I'm guessing that the point is that if you're wondering how good Germans allowed and enabled the rise of Hitler, you can wonder no more. No, trump is no Hitler, but he is, I would argue, a Hitler wannabe, with illegal aliens playing the role of the Jews and Catholics, and homosexuals. And the fact that he receives rousing cheers at his propaganda rallies is no different than Hitler's rallies prior to his taking power in the early 1930s and in the run-up to WWII.

Saviolo

(3,270 posts)
5. It's true, Trump is no Hitler
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jul 2018

But he has extremely fascist instincts, and he surrounds himself with white supremacists, white nationalists, and fascists. They won't hesitate to throw Trump to the dogs it means a real shot at power. Stephen Miller, for instance, that dead-eyed ghoul, is one of the most terrifying people pulling the strings from behind the scenes in Washington right now. He deserves to be NOWHERE near the levers of power when he actively wishes to oppress a significant portion of the population.

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