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I can't emphasize too much how fucked up this actually is. A recipe for a never-ending tragedy... (Original Post) MrScorpio Jul 2018 OP
So true, my friend. I read they finally were able to hand Kushners lawyers his subpoena after him bettyellen Jul 2018 #1
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2018 #2
Child trafficking. They stole the children from their parents Fla Dem Jul 2018 #3
And his followers are on a quest to out pedophiles and human traffickers (see: Pizzagate, QANON). Initech Jul 2018 #17
That would be admitting 2naSalit Jul 2018 #18
The odious dictator ordered the abuse and torture of children....he must be charged RestoreAmerica2020 Jul 2018 #25
Child trafficking duhneece Jul 2018 #54
K & R skylucy Jul 2018 #4
I think John Oliver did a bit on this wonkwest Jul 2018 #5
Some of these people speak only indigenous languages, and are illiterate, pnwmom Jul 2018 #22
It's offensive wonkwest Jul 2018 #33
Understand it was a Trump appointee who Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #6
I thought Nazi wanna be Stephen Miller had his hands BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #21
NAZIs all. They are all NAZIs. Sophia4 Jul 2018 #7
What's even more unbelievable is percentage of RubleCons supporting tRump on this. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #9
Except when the Nazi T4 program was found out the Nazi stopped uponit7771 Jul 2018 #38
Trump Child Abductions: trial run for citizen concentration camps. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #8
I agree heaven05 Jul 2018 #16
Sadly, I'm afraid you are correct...nt 2naSalit Jul 2018 #19
Frigging "family-values" republicans smashing up families Achilleaze Jul 2018 #10
Roast in hell? They should roast here on Earth now. NBachers Jul 2018 #14
+1!!! 2naSalit Jul 2018 #20
The only family they value is their own. CrispyQ Jul 2018 #50
Intentional cruelty cp Jul 2018 #11
Yes. "Cruelty isn't just the byproduct, it's the intention." RandomAccess Jul 2018 #39
Just like the payday loan people. lpbk2713 Jul 2018 #12
If they REALLY wanted to "find" them why don't you see an articles in the newspaper flying_wahini Jul 2018 #13
Two recipes...forcing to sign forms, and 2 words, "Puerto Rico"..... Stuart G Jul 2018 #15
sad. I read that the US is admitting that some kids will NEVER be reunited with parents Demovictory9 Jul 2018 #23
It seems America has become incapable of outrage. world wide wally Jul 2018 #24
Trump & Co have been committing Intolerable Acts. lpbk2713 Jul 2018 #31
didn't they say yesterday KT2000 Jul 2018 #26
The reason is incompetence combined with racism mythology Jul 2018 #29
Agree KT2000 Jul 2018 #44
K&R... spanone Jul 2018 #27
K & R malaise Jul 2018 #28
But why? choie Jul 2018 #30
For historical reference Hitler did similar to people who were mentally disabled called the t4 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #37
Those forms can't possibly be legally binding, can they? Crunchy Frog Jul 2018 #32
The parents have no money to hire lawyers FakeNoose Jul 2018 #55
k and r LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #34
This hideous STAIN on our country will never be removed. Guilded Lilly Jul 2018 #35
This is very syrupy evil this is devilish nasty smell evil uponit7771 Jul 2018 #36
The Private Prison Contractors Need to Keep Their Profits Up dlk Jul 2018 #40
K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2018 #41
We can start to stop this madness warmfeet Jul 2018 #42
K&R defacto7 Jul 2018 #43
The system installed by Trump ensures many kids will be lost forever Hekate Jul 2018 #45
That doesn't seem to be Nobel Prize material, does it? dchill Jul 2018 #46
I've work with immigrants my AmandaRuth Jul 2018 #47
I have been having vivid, troubled dreams. summer_in_TX Jul 2018 #48
I think they were given a Sophie's Choice: if they wanted to let their children applegrove Jul 2018 #49
+1 dalton99a Jul 2018 #56
The contract is unenforceable by law. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #51
It's absolutely hideous. whathehell Jul 2018 #52
I hope Rachel is aware of this. sellitman Jul 2018 #53
Kidnapping children Progressive dog Jul 2018 #57
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. So true, my friend. I read they finally were able to hand Kushners lawyers his subpoena after him
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:13 PM
Jul 2018

Dodging it for about six weeks. Ugh. Such jerks.

Fla Dem

(23,352 posts)
3. Child trafficking. They stole the children from their parents
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jul 2018

then sent them all over the US. Who knows where they will end up? Older ones working in the field where the farmers can't get enough migrant workers? Babies sold to who knows who. This is a major scandal. Someone should be held to account for this tragedy.

Initech

(99,915 posts)
17. And his followers are on a quest to out pedophiles and human traffickers (see: Pizzagate, QANON).
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:06 PM
Jul 2018

Why don't they start with people in their own fucking party?

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
18. That would be admitting
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:14 PM
Jul 2018

that they are not exactly the "chosen ones" they want us to believe they are.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,433 posts)
25. The odious dictator ordered the abuse and torture of children....he must be charged
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:53 PM
Jul 2018

...with crimes against children, humanity. He and is regime are child abusers.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
5. I think John Oliver did a bit on this
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:24 PM
Jul 2018

About how the language barrier is wielded against people. Fuck. I speak Spanish. Bring me in!

It’s a crime against humanity. You know, when humanity had actual definition.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
22. Some of these people speak only indigenous languages, and are illiterate,
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jul 2018

and we had them sign written documents in English.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
33. It's offensive
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 06:01 PM
Jul 2018

If I can vaguely speak fluent Spanish, certainly our officials can.

I'm beginning to think there's a pretense.

Were not supposed to be these people.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Understand it was a Trump appointee who
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jul 2018

wrote the Policy and created this mess. TPM had a story about this earlier today. Pure Racist hate filled individual as per the story.

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
21. I thought Nazi wanna be Stephen Miller had his hands
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:20 PM
Jul 2018

all over this. We must harass these cretins everywhere and all the time. Harass them outside the office and their homes. They did this to Miller before (and it worked). They did it to Fuckubee Sanders, Neilsen, and McConnell (twice) and it worked. They all left without eating and Mitch's mommy/wife had to defend poor hubby from the nasty people calling him names. WOMP WOMP! Harass them 24/7!!!

If I were in DC I would make this my daily mission. My reps are Dems so I can't nail them during their Summer Recess but those of you who have GOP reps...HARASS them during their "vacation"....and do not stop!

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
10. Frigging "family-values" republicans smashing up families
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jul 2018

sick republican shit.

republicans will roast in hell for what they've done to families and children

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
39. Yes. "Cruelty isn't just the byproduct, it's the intention."
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 06:47 PM
Jul 2018

I wish I'd captured who said that. But they were 100% correct.

lpbk2713

(42,696 posts)
12. Just like the payday loan people.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:57 PM
Jul 2018



"Here sign this and everything will be just dandy. Don't have a
magnifying glass for the fine print? Hey, don't worry about it."


flying_wahini

(6,529 posts)
13. If they REALLY wanted to "find" them why don't you see an articles in the newspaper
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:59 PM
Jul 2018

Something like..... have you seen this child? If you have a foster child in your home please contact the state dept immediately!

BeCause they don't Fuckin Care, that's why.

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
15. Two recipes...forcing to sign forms, and 2 words, "Puerto Rico".....
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:00 PM
Jul 2018

There are more, but they will arrive when the time is right..

lpbk2713

(42,696 posts)
31. Trump & Co have been committing Intolerable Acts.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jul 2018



The public should let their feelings known. These are
the times that try men's souls ... Thomas Paine.

KT2000

(20,544 posts)
26. didn't they say yesterday
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:54 PM
Jul 2018

that over 900 children will not be reunited with their parents. No reason given.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
29. The reason is incompetence combined with racism
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:11 PM
Jul 2018

Only an idiot would separate kids from parents without making damn sure they know which kid goes with which parent. And only an evil (in this case the evil is in the form of racism) ass would have separated them in the first place.

KT2000

(20,544 posts)
44. Agree
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 07:46 PM
Jul 2018

my feeling is that these children will stay in facilities until they are 18 and then deported - after trump declares himself "dear leader."

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
37. For historical reference Hitler did similar to people who were mentally disabled called the t4
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 06:42 PM
Jul 2018

... program in Nazi Germany

Instead Hitler was just killing them all in the name of purifying German blood

The Nazi regime didn't think anyone cared do to Hitler's consummate wanting to cleanse German Society but there was such an uproar about it he cancelled at the program.

they try to do it in secret also but there was a lot of protests in regards to it.

this is a type of mentality we are dealing with they are depraved and they are in their own social bubble so they don't understand Humanity like the General Public.

Crunchy Frog

(26,548 posts)
32. Those forms can't possibly be legally binding, can they?
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:39 PM
Jul 2018

And would they supercede the court order?

I would think that some lower level officials could and should be arrested for contempt of court.

FakeNoose

(32,356 posts)
55. The parents have no money to hire lawyers
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 12:40 PM
Jul 2018

...also many of them have been kicked out of the country. Or, they're locked up for who knows how long?
Some bi-lingual lawyers are trying to help these people (for no charge) but it's so huge and complex. Many of the children are so small they don't know their own names or their parents' names.

Why hasn't the Supreme Court stepped in and stopped this? Or the higher courts of Texas and other border states where it's happening?

dlk

(11,438 posts)
40. The Private Prison Contractors Need to Keep Their Profits Up
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 06:51 PM
Jul 2018

They have shown us who they really are. We need to believe them.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
45. The system installed by Trump ensures many kids will be lost forever
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 07:56 PM
Jul 2018

Trump and his giggling little goblin are criminals

AmandaRuth

(3,105 posts)
47. I've work with immigrants my
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:53 PM
Jul 2018

Whole working life, and this is giving me nightmares. Just want to point out, this whole shitshow is rooted in tRumps white supremacy ideology.

summer_in_TX

(2,685 posts)
48. I have been having vivid, troubled dreams.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 12:38 AM
Jul 2018

Kids are in danger, and I move from spot to spot trying my best to save them. But I keep finding more. Ugh. Hard to sleep.

I traveled from Central Texas down to McAllen last week with a small mission team from my Methodist. We hoped to have some on our team observing and documenting immigration court cases and others helping at the Catholic Charities RGV Humanitarian Respite Center. But it turned out no cases were on the docket so we all helped at the Humanitarian Respite Center. The volunteers working there do amazing work and treat the immigrants as valued guests.

Once the border checkpoints process the immigrants and finds them eligible to release to await deportation proceedings or asylum claims evaluation, CPB brings them to the respite center, where they get access to showers and clean clothing, a chance to call family they plan to stay with, food, toys and books and craft time for the kids, tickets and transportation to catch a bus to wherever they're going, provided with supplies and food for their trip, and more. The Catholic nuns running the mission are remarkable, and they're doing incredible work in rather cramped quarters, with the support of other denominations that are partners in their work.








applegrove

(118,022 posts)
49. I think they were given a Sophie's Choice: if they wanted to let their children
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 02:17 AM
Jul 2018

have an immigration hearing they had to give up parental rights. If they wanted to retain parental rights to their children they had to give up their child's right to an immigration hearing. That was on CTV News in canada. It is almost as if someone was trolling when they made up the application.

no_hypocrisy

(45,774 posts)
51. The contract is unenforceable by law.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 10:45 AM
Jul 2018

1. They didn't know what they were signing.
2. They were misled to the terms of the contract by people who wanted them to sign the documents.
3. They never intended to give up their children.

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