because she was the first Democrat out of the shoot calling for Al's resignation and leading a charge of other Democrats that resulted in his leaving the Senate without due process. Many of us feel he was railroaded and therefore Kirsten Gillibrand is not a favorite person. I for one am tired of Democrats eating their own without due process/ ethic committee action. It doesn't happen often, but I do hold a grudge on this one. I sent Kirsten scathing letter shortly after her leap to condemnation. I still do not like her or the way she does politics. Sorry that you apparently do. To each, their own.

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

6. This is a total lie

Reply to kiri (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 28, 2018, 10:19 PM

Jul 2018

pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)

12. No, it is honest feeling about the way Kirsten Gillebrand

Reply to oberliner (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 28, 2018, 10:52 PM

Jul 2018

handled a situation which showed lack of judgement in my opinion and the opinion of several others. A difference of opinion is not a lie and I resent that opinion being called a lie! Everyone has the right to express their opinions on DU, or at least that is what I have been told.

calimary

(81,179 posts)

13. I know how you feel, pazzyanne.

Reply to pazzyanne (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 28, 2018, 11:17 PM

Jul 2018

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If I absolutely have to vote for her I will. But she did lead the railroading of Al Franken, silencing a strong, forceful, and insightful voice just when we were needing as many of those as we could get.

And all because of a dumb slap-happy end-of-tour practical joke, Roger Stone, a has-been, low-rated, low-power AM crank station hoping for attention and a Democratic scalp, and some Minnesota county fair attendee who wanted her picture taken with Franken and then complained that “he touched my waist!”

And BTW, that hatchet job did nothing to help said talk station’s lousy ratings, either! I worked across the hall at its FM sister station back when that particular AMer was one of the top stations in LA. Its past glories are so far back in its rear view mirror by now that they’re barely visible. Just like its current ratings! Maybe there’s some justice, albeit minimal.

pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)

16. Excellent run down of the particulars, calimary!

Reply to calimary (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 29, 2018, 03:37 AM

Jul 2018

It breaks my heart that Al was sidelined when we need him in Washington DC more than we ever did. I have sat through some of the tRump administration's testimonies and all I can think of is how effectively one of the best and brightest was silenced. That's a pain that doesn't go away.

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)

3. Heitkamp isn't

Reply to JimGinPA (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2018, 10:09 PM

Jul 2018

very blue, she sides with oil industries and helped push the KXL permit, among other things that would make me not vote for her is she were in my state.

PS... she's in a state next to mine.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)

5. That's the kind of thinking that made it easy for Putin to steal the Electoral College.

Reply to 2naSalit (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 28, 2018, 10:17 PM

Jul 2018

The time to fight those kind of battles is in the primaries.

After the primaries, vote Democratic. Unless you want to give power to RubleCons by not voting or voting third party.