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jpak

(41,742 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 08:39 PM Jul 2018

The British Army is reportedly on standby to deliver food, medicines, and fuel in case of a no-deal

The British Army is reportedly on standby to deliver food, medicines, and fuel in case of a no-deal Brexit

https://www.businessinsider.com/british-army-on-standby-to-deliver-food-medicine-fuel-if-no-deal-brexit-sunday-times-report-2018-7

The British Army has reportedly been put on standby to deliver food, medicines, and fuel in case of shortages if the UK leaves the EU without a deal.

The military would be called in to assist civilian authorities if they ran out of such supplies, with helicopters and army trucks being used to shuttle aid to people around the country, The Sunday Times reported .

The contingency plans were all made in case Britain left the EU next March with no deal. The Ministry of Defence has not received a formal request for the aid, but told the Sunday newspaper that there was "a blueprint for us supporting the civilian authorities that can be dusted off" if the time came.

British media has reported on a "doomsday scenario" created by a no-deal Brexit in recent months. Britain is set to leave the EU on March 29, 2019, and negotiations with the EU still appear to be deadlocked.

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The British Army is reportedly on standby to deliver food, medicines, and fuel in case of a no-deal (Original Post) jpak Jul 2018 OP
They've fucked themselves, haven't they - and apparently with some Russian help. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #1
WHY ISN'T THE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE LEADING TO A NEW VOTE?????? DemocracyMouse Jul 2018 #27
They're not just hurting themselves Chris Studio Jul 2018 #2
Why the Irish job losses? Ireland stays with the EU as it's English speaking member. Blue_true Jul 2018 #11
Ireland Chris Studio Jul 2018 #13
Wow, I didn't see things to that level of detail. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #16
It's shocking Chris Studio Jul 2018 #17
Is this Creative Speculation ! stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #3
I put the link in jpak Jul 2018 #5
question DonCoquixote Jul 2018 #4
Ireland has been a member of the EU since 1973 blondebanshee Jul 2018 #9
Scotland is part of the United Kingdom so no (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jul 2018 #10
Ireland Chris Studio Jul 2018 #14
to add to that DonCoquixote Jul 2018 #19
So did Chris Studio Jul 2018 #23
There is nothing stopping the EU from negotiating with Scotland. roamer65 Jul 2018 #20
wellllll.... Chris Studio Jul 2018 #26
Let them eat soybeans. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #6
quite the cock up..... dhill926 Jul 2018 #7
Perhaps we are living through what Sir Winston Churchill might call Glorfindel Jul 2018 #8
there will be no disaster, possible just higher tariffs on some items IMO msongs Jul 2018 #12
Not even vaguely true Chris Studio Jul 2018 #15
Looks like Germany will be the big winner here, followed by France. Blue_true Jul 2018 #18
Meh BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #21
I live in Ireland Chris Studio Jul 2018 #22
Ireland is directly affected by this PaddyIrishman Jul 2018 #24
I think thsat is exactly the goal DonCoquixote Jul 2018 #25

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
27. WHY ISN'T THE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE LEADING TO A NEW VOTE??????
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 04:08 PM
Jul 2018

There is ZERO political logic in accepting that STUPID vote, one which lead to gazillions of Brits regretting their vote. If outside interference tipped the the balance, then the vast majority of British citizens should want to back out of the deal.

Same with our own treasonous HEXit! (Trump).

 

Chris Studio

(82 posts)
2. They're not just hurting themselves
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 08:44 PM
Jul 2018

Brexit could kill 50,000 jobs in Ireland and wipe 20b off the economy.

The country has lost its collective mind..

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. Why the Irish job losses? Ireland stays with the EU as it's English speaking member.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 09:38 PM
Jul 2018

Is the issue trade with Britain? If so, wouldn't the increased EU trade soften that effect?

 

Chris Studio

(82 posts)
13. Ireland
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:21 PM
Jul 2018

Is incredibly exposed to the UK. Something like 80% of Irish meat is sold to the UK.

Yes, the EU is trying to help and in the long run it will... But... Ireland is an isolated island. We:re losing our main trading partner. And one of our main tourism partners. It's going to suck. Bigly.

Plus, the UK just doesn't care. Many there are either trying to sucker the Irish to leave the EU, although they largely gave that up a few months back, or are openly hostile to Ireland - what's new - because they baselessly blame Ireland for their Brexit woes.

I see the Irish being based on UK media sites almost daily. People wanting their new government to 'squeeze' Ireland.

It's pretty intense.

 

Chris Studio

(82 posts)
14. Ireland
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:23 PM
Jul 2018

Is not part of the UK. It's a separate country.

Scotland may some day vote for independence. They overwhelmingly voted to Remain.

Northern Ireland may also reunify with Ireland at some point in the future as well.

The UK is shooting itself in the face.

roamer65

(36,739 posts)
20. There is nothing stopping the EU from negotiating with Scotland.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 01:03 AM
Jul 2018

Seriously, what would England do? Invade Scotland? Lol.

The English would have to accept any deal agreed to between the EU and Scotland. They either accept it, or Scotland will vote for independence.

 

Chris Studio

(82 posts)
26. wellllll....
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jul 2018

States have to apply to the EU. Scotland is not an independent state.

The EU also have strict rules about percentage of debt to GDP, which Scotland won't pass.

So, they can't. And Scotland couldn't enter even if they could.

Glorfindel

(9,706 posts)
8. Perhaps we are living through what Sir Winston Churchill might call
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 09:16 PM
Jul 2018

"The Suicide of the English-Speaking Peoples." Brexit and Trump? What were they thinking? I voted against Trump and would have voted against Brexit, given the opportunity. Well, thank goodness for such clear-thinking outposts as Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica, and the other independent Caribbean realms. The USA and the UK may have flushed themselves down the loo, but our Anglophone brethren may be able to rescue a small remnant.

(I really shouldn't drink Chardonnay and post on DU. It always comes out muddled somehow.)

msongs

(67,193 posts)
12. there will be no disaster, possible just higher tariffs on some items IMO
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:10 PM
Jul 2018

its not like the EU is gonna cut off food and water like the german's tried with u boats

 

Chris Studio

(82 posts)
15. Not even vaguely true
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:28 PM
Jul 2018

If there's a no deal Brexit, UK flights won't be able to land in EU countries.

The UK also will - even if there's a deal - lose passporting for its financial services industry, which will kill untold jobs. In fact it's likely to lose all of its services industry that does business in the EU.

On top of that, those tariffs will kill its supply chain manufacturing. No company doing most of its business in the EU will just stay in the UK as a favor. And that's many thousands of jobs as well.

This is going to be a major disaster.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. Looks like Germany will be the big winner here, followed by France.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:42 PM
Jul 2018

Someone wrote about a month ago that Germany and France wanted the UK financial services business and it looks like they will get the EU portion, which will be huge for them. Plus, China may move some of it's financial activity to Germany or France from the UK. Going to be interesting to see how this works out.

PaddyIrishman

(110 posts)
24. Ireland is directly affected by this
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 05:22 AM
Jul 2018

If the UK "crashes out" i.e. leaves without any deal in place, then all existing licensing, transit, medical, customs, health care, you name arrangements suddenly cease and there will be no replacement in place. The UK has said it will no longer be part of the EU Court, the European Court of Justice (ECJ). The problem is, practically every organisation that licenses medicine, agrees food standards, product safety standards, driving licenses, aviation and the rest is a European institution that has the ECJ as its highest Court in the case of dispute.

An example of this that has been raised this week is insulin. The UK does not manufacture insulin and if it "crashes out" has no medical standards or licensing regime in place. Diabetics in the UK are watching this with great interest as they can only "stockpile" up to five weeks of insulin. They are also hoping that because the PM, Theresa May is a diabetic, that this is one issue their government is on top of.

The UK is also part of the EU for nearly all of its international agreements and is not necessarily a member in its own right.

For example, the UK flies to the US as part of the US - EU "Open Skies" agreement. If the UK leaves the EU, it is no longer part of this and UK registered airlines have no right to land in US airports. Yes, an agreement will be signed, but these take time and if the UK is negotiating on its own, and not as part of the EU, it won't get as good a deal.

Ireland's problem is geography (what's new I hear you ask....). Most Irish produce that is exported to the rest of the EU goes through England and Wales. It's a lot faster and easier to sail from Dublin to Holyhead in Wales, drive through England and take a ferry from Dover to Calais than it is to sail from Dublin directly to France.

If customs checks are re-introduced, then delays at Holyhead and Calais delay everything. There's also the issue of whether Irish driving licenses would be recognised in the UK after a "crash out".

From an Irish perspective, Brexit is like watching your neighbour set his house on fire and then remembering that you live next door.

DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
25. I think thsat is exactly the goal
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 03:55 PM
Jul 2018
The UK has said it will no longer be part of the EU Court, the European Court of Justice (ECJ). The problem is, practically every organisation that licenses medicine, agrees food standards, product safety standards, driving licenses, aviation and the rest is a European institution that has the ECJ as its highest Court in the case of dispute.

In short, just like the libertarians are trying to buy Puerto Rico to make their libertarian utopia, watch Russia..ahem..I mean Bannon try to say that the UK can now become a libertarian paradise, free of socialized medicine!
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