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Jeff Flake essentially ices out judicial confirmations! (Original Post) Roland99 Jul 2018 OP
K&R... spanone Jul 2018 #1
...'til he gets paid. Iggo Jul 2018 #2
Whatever. He'll be sure to make it back to vote for Kavanaugh. Bleacher Creature Jul 2018 #3
My money is on Flake hedging his bets that the voters will turn on the Repugants in power as to cstanleytech Jul 2018 #5
Senator Flakey* has got his eye on challenging tRump* in the Rethuglican primary... Raster Jul 2018 #12
+1 2naSalit Jul 2018 #23
Flake actually did something instead of just talk? mcar Jul 2018 #4
He must have needed that vacation, nothing else... Perseus Jul 2018 #10
I agree mcar Jul 2018 #11
Same here True Blue American Aug 2018 #26
Does this include the Supreme Court Nominee??? got to ask...thanks for an answer. Stuart G Jul 2018 #6
That would appear to be the case as he hasn't passed committee yet Roland99 Jul 2018 #7
If only there was a way to slow walk it until after November, but don't imagine there is AdamGG Jul 2018 #24
No Judicial confirmations in this last year of tRump's Presidency. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #8
Yes! Rorey Jul 2018 #17
+1. Excactly!! nt Persondem Aug 2018 #29
They don't need him to conduct hearings or vote the nomination out of Committee EffieBlack Jul 2018 #9
I'm not so sure watoos Jul 2018 #13
You're right - EffieBlack Jul 2018 #19
They might not have enough floor votes Liberty Belle Aug 2018 #25
Flake would be back in time for a floor vote. EffieBlack Aug 2018 #27
I agree. saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #18
I'll believe it when I see it. Saviolo Jul 2018 #14
About time that he DID something instead of just SAYING something. scheming daemons Jul 2018 #15
Excellent! SunSeeker Jul 2018 #16
He was my rep in the House for 12 years. AZ8theist Jul 2018 #20
Prove it world wide wally Jul 2018 #21
I wonder if McConnell can replace him? Look fr McConnell to do something about this. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #22
committees assignments are voted on (mostly pro forma) CreekDog Aug 2018 #28
The committee rules may provide for a substitute in an absence. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #31
it's fucking MATH! you need 51 votes to remove the guy and he's the 51st vote! CreekDog Aug 2018 #37
Get control of yourself, little man. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #38
nowhere does flake say he will be gone all month. He is observing elections in Z. riversedge Aug 2018 #30
The OP made it sound like he'd be gone all August, so no voting possible. Z? Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #32
Zimbabwe. yes, it does sound like that but riversedge Aug 2018 #33
Ha! I was making a joke & had no idea he was really IN a "Z." Too funny. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #34
I just found this--says he will be gone 3 weeks. riversedge Aug 2018 #35
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #36
Flake previously said he's not going to hold up nominations. Did he change his ecstatic Aug 2018 #39

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
3. Whatever. He'll be sure to make it back to vote for Kavanaugh.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jul 2018

I'm growing tired of Flake trying to have it both ways.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
5. My money is on Flake hedging his bets that the voters will turn on the Repugants in power as to
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jul 2018

nutty and he wants to position himself as the supposed "sane" and ethical Repugnant that can be trusted.
If that is what he is trying I just hope the voters do not fall for it.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
12. Senator Flakey* has got his eye on challenging tRump* in the Rethuglican primary...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:35 PM
Jul 2018

... and is trying to best position himself. He's gonna need a whole hella lot of soap to wash the tRump* stink off his hands.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
10. He must have needed that vacation, nothing else...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:11 PM
Jul 2018

I would not put too much weight on Flake having done it for a patriotic reason, he must have needed the vacation, maybe he bought plane tickets and paid for the resort he and his family went to (I am making that up, I don't know if they went to a resort), and he could not lose the money, etc...

Flake, and Corker are just talk, nothing else, they both will vote for the guy, who knows if Flake is doing it to get some leverage on his fellow republicans, but I don't have faith he did it for the country.

AdamGG

(1,288 posts)
24. If only there was a way to slow walk it until after November, but don't imagine there is
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:31 PM
Jul 2018

Then the red state Democrats would be more free to vote no and maybe there would be a shot.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
9. They don't need him to conduct hearings or vote the nomination out of Committee
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:09 PM
Jul 2018

A confirmation vote by the full Senate won't likely happen until September, so I don't see any there there.

Now, if Flake refuses to vote Yes on confirmation, we're in business ... But until then, this is a big nothingburger.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. I'm not so sure
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jul 2018

they don't need him to vote the nomination out of committee.

I agree there is still time once Flake returns.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
19. You're right -
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 03:07 PM
Jul 2018

They can't recommend his confirmation without a majority vote and his absence would put it at 10-10. But the nomination can still be voted on on the floor without a favorable committee recommendation.

But it they want a committee vote, Flake will be back in a few weeks and they can just vote then.

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
25. They might not have enough floor votes
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 03:02 AM
Aug 2018

With Flalke away, McCain ailing and away, and perhaps Collins defecting over abortion issues.

Saviolo

(3,280 posts)
14. I'll believe it when I see it.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:42 PM
Jul 2018

Flake has made it abundantly clear that he's happy to tone police Trump, but not actually do anything concrete to resist a single thing he does. So, he'll put up a token resistance that will make people think he's the only sane GOP senator who's willing to stand up against Trump to build his brand for his own presidential run in a few years' time.

AZ8theist

(5,456 posts)
20. He was my rep in the House for 12 years.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 07:34 PM
Jul 2018

Accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING during that time.

Same accomplishments during his senate career. Totally useless bag of shit.

DO NOT expect anything from this non-entity.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. I wonder if McConnell can replace him? Look fr McConnell to do something about this.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 08:20 PM
Jul 2018

McConnell doesn't "go high."

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
28. committees assignments are voted on (mostly pro forma)
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:43 AM
Aug 2018

so taking him off the committee would take a vote on committee membership.

how many votes do you count for kicking him off the committee?

I don't count any Democrats, so that leaves 51.

I don't think Flake would vote for that --leaves 50.

McCain's not there --leaves 49.

think it through.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. The committee rules may provide for a substitute in an absence.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 03:54 PM
Aug 2018

I doubt the whole Senate would have to start from ground zero for a temporary absence.

They're not going to let one Senator's temporary absence stand in the way of Judge confirmations. Or maybe it's not a big deal to put the votes off for a couple of weeks.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
37. it's fucking MATH! you need 51 votes to remove the guy and he's the 51st vote!
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:15 AM
Aug 2018

you keep saying it's easy no matter what we tell you.

then why haven't they done it???

It's fucking math. Do it.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
38. Get control of yourself, little man.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:38 AM
Aug 2018

I never said it was easy. I was asking a question. You know what a question is, right? You know that committees have rules that take care of absences, right? Maybe not this one, but maybe. So I was asking.

If the President gets sick and can't perform his job, we don't start over with a new election, do we? There are procedures in place to temporarily assign people to that position.

I accept your apology for losing control of yourself and cussing at a reasonable post by someone who has not in the least been rude at all to you.

You might wanna do some inner searching on why you lose control when someone in a forum, who is on the same side as yu are, asks a question instead of bowing to your final authority.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
32. The OP made it sound like he'd be gone all August, so no voting possible. Z?
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 03:58 PM
Aug 2018

Elections in Z? Zebra? New Zealand? Zinbabwe?

riversedge

(70,192 posts)
33. Zimbabwe. yes, it does sound like that but
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 04:25 PM
Aug 2018

I read several of his tweets. and it does not say how long he will be gone. but maybe horse whisperer know something else.



ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
39. Flake previously said he's not going to hold up nominations. Did he change his
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:50 AM
Aug 2018

mind? If so, that's a wonderful change!

Flake has been pressed on this issue a number of times (the hypocrisy of rubber stamping trump's agenda no matter what trump does). His response has been that it's a separate issue. The only topic where he's willing to actually obstruct is related to the tariffs.

I'm hoping that his absence is not just a coincidence and that it actually means what the author of the tweet is suggesting.

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