What on earth is "soy boy" supposed to mean?

[T_i_B]

Just seen a mass debate on Facebook where the term "soy boy" was used as a political insult. What on earth is that supposed to mean?

I am familiar with most of the usual political insults like cuck, snowflake, gammon, centrist dad etc. All of which are garbage to varying degrees but "soy boy" is a new one on me.

The two main British political parties of the 18th century, the Tories and Whigs both took their names from political insults and I do wonder if in 15 years time we will have a general election contested by the gammon party, the snowflake party and the centrist dad party!

[oberliner]

1. Liberals choosing soy substitutes rather than eating meat?

[lpbk2713]

2. A wild guess ... someone sympathetic to Chinese?

I have no idea.

[fleur-de-lisa]

3. Urban Dictionary: males who lack masculine qualities

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/soy-boy-insult-what-is-definition-far-right-men-masculinity-women-a8027816.html

From the website: The idea is that if you drink dairy-free milk alternatives, you are obviously weak and feminine (based on the thinking that soy products increase men’s oestrogen levels, even though this hasn’t been scientifically proven).

And then there’s the fact that soy is often used as a meat alternative, and as we all know, real men eat meat. And women only ever eat sad plates of salad.

According to Urban Dictionary, the term soy boy means: “Slang used to describe males who completely and utterly lack all necessary masculine qualities. This pathetic state is usually achieved by an over-indulgence of emasculating products and/or ideologies.“The origin of the term derives from the negative effects soy consumption has been proven to have on the male physique and libido.

“The average soy boy is a feminist, nonathletic, has never been in a fight, will probably marry the first girl that has sex with him, and likely reduces all his arguments to labeling the opposition as ‘Nazis’.”

[GoCubsGo]

29. So, I guess these clowns never heard of lactose intolerance?

Which is a reason why many drink milk substitutes.

[Mariana]

38. Lactose intolerance isn't a masculine quality.

Just ask them. I bet they say something like, "Real men drink real milk."

[T_i_B]

39. What are the chances.....

......that right wingers, when diagnosed as lactose intolerant make a big song and dance about drinking black coffee instead?

[superpatriotman]

4. Wild guess:

An effeminate male made by consuming soy-based products which (are believed) to increase estrogen.

[VOX]

5. It's yet another right-wing "Incel" derogatory title.

What follows is from the Urban Dictionary. It's not pretty, it'll probably anger you (it did me), but it's the most accurate description of the term and its meaning:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Soy%20Boy

"Slang used to describe males who completely and utterly lack all necessary masculine qualities. This pathetic state is usually achieved by an over-indulgence of emasculating products and/or ideologies.

"The origin of the term derives from the negative effects soy consumption has been proven to have on the male physique and libido.

The average soy boy is a feminist, nonathletic, has never been in a fight, will probably marry the first girl that has sex with him, and likely reduces all his arguments to labeling the opposition as 'Nazis.'"

[dawg day]

14. Tom Brady is a soy boy then

Four suoer bowl wins, right? He eats a vegan diet along with his supermodel wife.

[VOX]

25. Strictly speaking, you are correct.

But no one ever claimed that the right wing made any sense.

[demmiblue]

6. My guess: it refers to a man who is a vegetarian/vegan (and a Dem/liberal).

Because eating meat/killing animals is manly, ya know?!

A variation of crunchy/granola stereotypes.

[Nay]

21. Yeah, and the 'quiche-eater' slur, too. nt

[JHB]

37. And that one's just from the word...

I mean, the most common form of quiche (at least in the US) is basically a ham & eggs pie.

Real Men(tm) eat ham.

Real Men(tm) eat eggs.

Real Men(tm) eat pie.

What is unmanly about putting them all together? Quiche es más macho.

Call it Aunt Sally's Ham & Eggs Pie and you'll have the Duck Dynasty fan club scarfing them down and telling you how it's so much more manly than that frou-frou "quiche", even if it's the same thing.

[Vinca]

7. What the heck is gammon supposed to mean? I can't keep up with the slurs.

[T_i_B]

11. An elderly bigot....

....who gets so red in the face when confronted with evidence that leaving the EU is a monumentally fuckwitted idea that their face takes on the complexion of gammon.

It's an insult that took off after a particularly bad episode of "Question Time", a terrible BBC political debate programme which had an audience with an unnaturally large number of angry red faced Tory councillors pretending to be ordinary members of the public.

[Vinca]

16. Thanks. Brits have a way with words. LOL.

[T_i_B]

18. It's often made out to be anti-white racism

But if anything it's more bigoted towards the elderly. The overwhelming majority of people who could be called "gammons" are over 60 years old.

[Iggo]

8. Off the top of my head it sounds like something Nazis who don't like being called Nazis would say.

[lapfog_1]

9. The only time I eat soy...

is soy sauce with my chinese...

and soy bean curd in my miso soup... maybe once every few months.

[Ezior]

10. I believe it's incel slang

Incels hate women so much that they are unable to have sex, and they blame their not having sex on women, which is why they hate women. (They also make up some crap about them being too ugly to ever have sex, unless it's rape.)

Incels believe that men can be "chad"s (handsome guys who have sex at least 3 times a day, each time involving multiple female partners, or "femoids" as they call women). Mother nature made Chads soooooo sexy it's really unfair for poor incels. This always includes lots of homoerotic talk.

Anyway, there is another group of men who are not Chads. They call them "soy boys". They are skinny, effeminate, empathic, friendly, liberal, kind, etc. Incels say that soy boys don't know how to treat "feminoids", i.e. that you must treat women like shit if you're a man. Soy boys are apparently like that because they eat soy, which contains some stuff that is related to estrogen or something.

Well, not sure if I got that right, their world view is simply too fucked up.

[T_i_B]

15. So a load of horseshit then.

From people who clearly don't get out of their houses very often.

I shall add "soy boy" to the ever growing list of political insults that only serve to mark the insultor out as a complete and utter fucknugget.

[mac56]

34. "You must treat women like shit if you're a man."

A book title I stumbled across: "Date 'Em Like You Hate 'Em."

[FSogol]

12. RWNJs think that drinking soy makes you effeminate.

[aidbo]

13. Soy-boy is stupid alt-right BS misunderstanding of science.

[Recursion]

17. Soy contains (relatively) high levels of estrogen

One of the weirder pseudoscientific nutrition theories on the right is that eating soy makes men more feminine.

These are also people who recommend unpasteurized milk, so...

[T_i_B]

19. I'm a liberal, I drink full fat milk.

That's the far right gobshite theory down the drain then!

[Recursion]

20. I love full fat milk. But these people drink *unpasteurized* milk

That's a whole 'nother kettle of cholera.

[demmiblue]

22. Alt. explanation:

Link to tweet

[ismnotwasm]

23. Homophobic bullshit

The RW isn’t happy unless they have a set standard for masculinity that they can stick to. They’re pretty damn insecure really

[T_i_B]

24. The far right in the UK idolise Jacob Rees-Mogg

So clearly they have different standards of "masculinity" for their own!

[VOX]

28. A quick-flip through Facebook reveals those standards:1) Big truck; 2) Big gun; 3) NFL crap; 4) Beer

I'm actually serious. It's amazing how scaled-down these "men's" lives are. So many weigh 320 lbs.-plus, are divorced or single, have minimal education, hold menial jobs (or none at all), love guns, motorcycles, trucks, NFL crap, muscle cars...you don't have to be Sigmund Freud to detect the overall theme here.

[T_i_B]

30. Aren't they supposed to be all boyotting the NFL?

[VOX]

41. It's as close to a major case of ambivalence as you'll ever see in right-wing men...

So they ultimately berate individual players who take a knee during the anthem, but they continue to watch; how else will the fill their miserable Sundays? Or Monday nights? Or Thursday nights?

I stopped watching pro football when the AFL merged with the NFL in 1970. I was an AFL fan.

[T_i_B]

42. I'm a rugby fan

You would think that international Rugby players singing along with their national anthem would pass the Conservative Patriotic Purity test.

Even if some of them might be a bit scared by the All Blacks performing the Haka before a game!

[VOX]

43. The very name of that great Kiwi team no doubt makes them squirm.

And rugby is REAL football!

[Hoyt]

26. I'm sure those above are correct, but made me think of Bob Dylan and Soy Bomb.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/soy-bomb-guy-who-interrupted-bob-dylans-1998-grammy-performance-reflects-20th-anniversary-q-a-1079125


As to slur, white wingers on Facebook are homophobes most of the time. Screw em.

[Zoonart]

27. Vegetarian...Vegan...Soy...unmanly

Men like meat. Make of that what you will.

[DBoon]

31. homophobia taken to the next level

not content to just abusing LGBT folks, they have moved the standard for masculinity that a large number of straight males are no longer masculine enough, hence worthy of their contempt.

[xor]

32. Whenever I see someone use that insult online

I always assume the person using it is projecting their own self-perceived short-comings onto others. In other words, they tend to be physically weak/inactive with non-assertive personalities themselves.

[T_i_B]

33. You could say that about all fashionable right wing insults

And maybe even some of the insults used by the left such as "gammon" as well!

[dalton99a]

35. Hitler was a vegetarian

[Ms. Toad]

36. homophobic insult.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Soy%20Boy

Slang used to describe males who completely and utterly lack all necessary masculine qualities. This pathetic state is usually achieved by an over-indulgence of emasculating products and/or ideologies.

The origin of the term derives from the negative effects soy consumption has been proven to have on the male physique and libido.

[a kennedy]

40. So any possible connection to the soybean farmers is a no then eh??

was thinking that soy boy was some sort term for the bailed out soy farmers.......