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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:25 PM Aug 2018

'We Need Healthcare Champions, Not Puppets': Documents Expose Big Pharma's Scheme......

'We Need Healthcare Champions, Not Puppets': Documents Expose Big Pharma's Scheme to Turn Democratic Candidates Against Medicare for All


From the article:

As a growing number of political candidates facing November elections proclaim their support for single-payer healthcare—which the majority of Americans want to replace the nation's current for-profit system—the Democratic primary for Hawaii's 1st Congressional District is shedding light on the insurance and pharmaceutical industry forces working against a transition to Medicare for All.....

"Democrats running in a primary election will say they support 'Medicare for All,' but what do they say to lobbyists behind the scenes?" responded fellow candidate Kaniela Ing, a vocal supporter of Medicare for All and other progressive policies who did not meet with the healthcare industry lobbyists.


To read more:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/02/we-need-healthcare-champions-not-puppets-docs-expose-big-pharmas-scheme-turn?cd-
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'We Need Healthcare Champions, Not Puppets': Documents Expose Big Pharma's Scheme...... (Original Post) guillaumeb Aug 2018 OP
I will ignore this Democratic Party BASHING Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #1
I will ignore you missing the point. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #2
If any democrat loses in November you will not be able to find a single word spoken or Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #3
And some of us know that corporate America, and the 1%, guillaumeb Aug 2018 #5
Maybe they want an honest discussion. R B Garr Aug 2018 #4
The corporations that profit from the current system guillaumeb Aug 2018 #6
The current news shows those contrived talking points R B Garr Aug 2018 #7
Personally I believe single payer is not only doable but necessary and soon HOWEVER Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #8
Yes, you are totally right about the agenda. We all know R B Garr Aug 2018 #9
This Meowmee Aug 2018 #15
Agreed. eom guillaumeb Aug 2018 #10
Is it "bashing" though? SkyDancer Aug 2018 #13
DURec leftstreet Aug 2018 #11
Thank you for the recommendation. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #12
I agree leftstreet Aug 2018 #14
Medicare for all greatly diminishes the profit potential for the insurance industry, guillaumeb Aug 2018 #16

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
3. If any democrat loses in November you will not be able to find a single word spoken or
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:31 PM
Aug 2018

written by me that contributed to that loss, not one.

Some of us know what is going on.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. And some of us know that corporate America, and the 1%,
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:33 PM
Aug 2018

are always looking to influence and define the terms of the debate.

If you read the article, you know that this is a reliably Democratic District, with multiple candidates.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
7. The current news shows those contrived talking points
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:36 PM
Aug 2018

are supported by the Kremlin. Politicians owe it to Americans to be honest and not inflammatory or chaotic.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
8. Personally I believe single payer is not only doable but necessary and soon HOWEVER
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:39 PM
Aug 2018

we need to remove the nazis, fascists, racists, killers and liars FIRST.

That could take a couple years or more.

We both know there is an agenda to muddy the waters to cause LESS support for the Democratic party that can WIN, as opposed to the bunch that cant or are less likely to win.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
9. Yes, you are totally right about the agenda. We all know
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:45 PM
Aug 2018

single payer is just one way to universal health care. It’s time to be honest about the process and not bash/malign Democrats who want realistic talk about it. Targeting them with lies just helps the GOP, or others with a similar agenda of attacking Democrats. A “puppet” would just parrot inflammatory rhetoric, and we’ve seen too much of that already. Time for non-campaign rhetoric to take over.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. Thank you for the recommendation.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:25 PM
Aug 2018

I feel we need to resist the attempts of the 1% to frame the terms of the debate, as well as framing what is accepted as possible.

leftstreet

(36,103 posts)
14. I agree
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:32 PM
Aug 2018

I've also been curious about the 'crickets' heard on Medicare For All after several Democratic Senators threw their support behind it last fall

Sanders Offers Medicare-for-All Plan Backed by 16 Senate Democrats

Sept 13, 2017

Sixteen Senate Democrats are flirting with a single-payer health-care system, marking a shift within the party on what was once viewed as a politically treacherous issue that attracted little support from lawmakers.

The Democrats are co-sponsoring a measure proposed Wednesday by Senator Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent, that would expand Medicare coverage to all Americans. That’s a significant change from 2013 when Sanders, who lost the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination to Hillary Clinton, attracted no co-sponsors.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-13/democrats-warm-to-sanders-single-payer-plan-in-health-care-shift


guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
16. Medicare for all greatly diminishes the profit potential for the insurance industry,
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 09:23 PM
Aug 2018

and pharma, and hospitals. That might explain much.

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