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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt 6:38 this morning, Donald Trump finally has crossed over into full Mussolini.
America is teetering on a precipice.
Link to tweet
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)PNW-Dem
(244 posts)By "them", I meant "I'm". Sorry for any confusion.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)FakeNoose
(32,596 posts)I get that it's joke, and it's actually pretty funny.
I'm just pointing how easy it is to spot the fake because Trump would never have apologized.
malaise
(268,717 posts)for the sake of the planet
Isn't there some provision in our Country's Constitution that allows maybe our military leaders the responsibility of arresting and confining a President who has proven to be a danger to civility?
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts).... there is provision for congess to remove him from office. It's called impeachment .
The military is under civilian poltical control and that control is excersized principly through the office of the presidency, as comander in chief. It would be a fundimental perversion of the Constitution for the military to do as you suggest.
eggplant
(3,908 posts)Thank you
kentuck
(111,052 posts)We will call it the Folks Wagon...
madaboutharry
(40,190 posts)so he can go back in time to 1939 Berlin and hang out with the like minded.
honest.abe
(8,616 posts)We are quickly running out of time.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)Only Congress can.
honest.abe
(8,616 posts)I know he wants to be completely thorough and have everything perfectly in place to make sure but we are nearing a potential major crisis. He needs to act very soon or it may not matter.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 5, 2018, 09:21 AM - Edit history (1)
if Muller had a tape of Trump strangling a hooker in front of Putin.
Only the Nov. election can save us.
honest.abe
(8,616 posts)We dont need them all, just enough to get a 2/3 vote assuming the House also votes for impeachment. i think that is possible if the report is conclusive enough of illegal activity.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)No matter what.
2/3 ? We would never get 50% of them to go against Trump.
honest.abe
(8,616 posts)Here is the scenario I hope that works out:
-- Mueller report and a bunch of indictments come out before labor day.
-- Its so serious that media is all over it even Fox.
-- Polls drop like a rock for all Republicans running for office in Nov.
-- GOP then feels they have no choice but to impeach.
StuckInTexas
(66 posts)You're failing to account for their voters. The republican fascists' polls will never drop below their baseline, because the republican base is made up of the some of the most absolutely vile excuses for human beings modern civilization has ever seen. There could be a tape of trump murdering a hooker in front of putin while saying he wants to commit genocide and as long as it made "libruls" angry, his poll numbers may actually increase.
The good news is, the GOP base is 40%, so we still have the numbers. Voting our way out is quite literally the only way we have out of this.
northoftheborder
(7,569 posts)that this pile of glop in the WH is the Anti-Christ; or that he was sent from God; it is the "end times". Their reps are NOT going to ever impeach him. He will never just resign. I am not feeling hopeful. At this point I am thinking he gets away with it. Maybe he's voted out, eventually, but not before tearing this country up into a boiling mass of revolution. We may take the House this election, but the Senate is questionable, and it would take a big majority there to remove him. Sorry to be so down, but I can take just so much "hope".
Mueller is not coming out with his report any time soon, I think, at least not before Nov..
catbyte
(34,341 posts)still enjoy an 84% approval rating among Republicans?
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/01/trumps-approval-ratings-so-far-are-unusually-stable-and-deeply-partisan/
at140
(6,110 posts)Best odds for this Mussolini like creature to go away are:
Has a massive heart attack
Has fast growing blastoma tumor in the brain
Drops out in 2020 race due to lousy polling
Voters wake up and he loses in 2020.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)25% to #30% of voters, and Trump has 80%-90% support from them.
So we can win without any of his base. It's the independents we need to win over.
barbtries
(28,769 posts)the percentages of republicans supporting him never seems to change but the actual numbers of republicans is going down. if we can hold on til November and GOTV, well let's just say I can recall wanting something more only one time in my life.
honest.abe
(8,616 posts)We will always need a large number of R's in the Senate to legally remove him from office.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)to expect 15 or more Repukes to vote for impeachment is wishful thinking.
their base is completely in for Trump, Voting against him and the lose in the Primary.
honest.abe
(8,616 posts)I dont think we can survive until 2020 with this lunatic in the WH. Also if he makes to 2020 he might just make it to 2024.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)I am just pessimistic about what will happen.
honest.abe
(8,616 posts)barbtries
(28,769 posts)this house would impeach Hillary for burping but Trump? nothing will bring them to it. they're traitors to the country and have abandoned any pretext of caring about the constitution.
kentuck
(111,052 posts)...what's the big deal about crawling thru broken glass just to vote?
honest.abe
(8,616 posts)I think part of Mueller's responsibility is to make recommendations that will help to stop election interference by Russians or any foreign entity. He needs to do that before Nov or else it may be too late.
LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)We should know who, allegedly, is in on trump treason before we vote.
Texin
(2,590 posts)They're fucking IN on it too. It suits their collective purpose. They don't give a flying fuck about the U.S. Constitution or representative democracy, except insofar at it accretes to the benefit of their constituents, namely themselves, and the 1%ers they esteem and hope to be a part of one day.
he took office already committing impeachable crimes.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Fifty years of continuous brainwashing by radical hate radio and FOX has so blinded these people to the truth that they are unable to think rationally. Their mind set is very simple. Democrats are liberal immoral people and un-Americans. They are the soul of America and the guardians of our nation against the evil liberals. As it stands, unless some event can dramatically bring about a return to reason, our nation is in serious jeopardy. The major and most important institution is the free press and if it is silenced then the road to an imperial presidency, such as exists in Russia and China, will become a reality.
People have warned that the Republican Party has been pursuing a fascist agenda for over forty years. Many on this board, including myself, have been met with denials that it was an exaggeration and it can't happen here. The fact is the it is happening and there is very little that can be done to stop the insane propaganda that drowns out the voices of reason. Any constructive criticism is summarily dismissed as a conspiracy to hide the truth from the real Americans. Our Republic and the grand experiment of self government is in jeopardy. At the present time there is one slim hope and that is that Democrats prevail in 2018 or we will see Trump reelected in 2020.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)No, mueller may not be able to take action to remove him immediately, but ordering him into court would bring attention and public out cry for his removal. If he's actually committed crimes, I think it's time to arrest him drag it all out into the light.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)can only be tried by Congress.
Vinca
(50,237 posts)If he was your father or grandfather wouldn't you be looking at care facilities? Republicans will forever be known as the "patriots" who chose party over country.
Freethinker65
(10,001 posts)dalton99a
(81,404 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)this man is sick!
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)he's getting ready to bomb someone. Mexico, Iran, or LaBron.
Who is it that's dangerous and sick?
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)comments on Mark Sandford, and thought it was a headline from "The Onion" He said "He likes flamingo dancers, and hikes the Tallahassee Trail" SERIOUSLY? He needs a padded cell, obviously. I read that those people at his rallies are paid, then have to use the vouchers for merchandise at the venue, advertising guess who??
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)malaise
(268,717 posts)His lies are the truth
LiberalLovinLug
(14,165 posts)And he's the only one benefiting from it.
mnmoderatedem
(3,722 posts)they actually eat this shit up and want more.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Trump is temporary. We'll be stuck with him until the end of this term at the very latest. He won't be re-elected. He won't be allowed to be re-elected, under any circumstances. The kind of people who worship him are here until they die. They are a stain and stench that will be hard to remove.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)Cosmocat
(14,559 posts)Since tge POS came down the escalator.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)According to whom:
Germanys newspapers were messengers of decay and harmful to the beliefs, customs and national pride of good Germans.
The German press had to become a piano, so to speak, in the hands of the government.
kentuck
(111,052 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,774 posts)He is fuckingly INSANE.
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)the pee stained mattresses.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)rtracey
(2,062 posts)we all know what happened to Mussolini
gordianot
(15,234 posts)I imagine the screams in the big White House asylum are terrifying. My uncle was a baker in a State mental institution in the early 1960s before the widespread use of medication. I know what it sounds like.
avebury
(10,951 posts)to run the movie Judgment At Nuremberg.
MSM and Cable Channels need to run documentaries on the end of WWII, the Nuremberg Trials and what happened to those who followed Hitler.
Judges need to be reminded that those who did Hitler's bidding were put on trial. Rethugs in Congress need to be minded that they might one day be subject to an American Nuremberg type of trial.
The Trump cult need to know that we out number them. If the International Community ever got involved on our side, it is possible that there might some day be a 21st Century version of the American Nuremberg trials.
I am personally anti-death penalty but I believe that I could get on board with judicial convictions followed by public executions if that is what it took to deal with the Trump cult and Rethug book lickers.
The time has come to put the fear of God into anybody that follows Trump that there will be consequences and mercy will not apply.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Very clearly aligned himself with them, referred to Fox News and his campaign as "we" repeatedly.
Delmette2.0
(4,157 posts)Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)This tweet indicates to me that sometime yesterday he caught wind of or was asked to comment on a pending story about him that will be extremely damaging. By smearing the media with a broad brush, he is trying to proactively delegitimize them in advance of the story running.
He assumes we will think less of him, but he is wrong. There is no way most of could think less of him any more than we do now.
jcgoldie
(11,613 posts)...grammar of a five year old.
mucifer
(23,487 posts)It must be so scary to be an investigative journalist right now.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)Trump in effect just declared war against journalists. At least some of his rabid followers are just crazy enough to go shoot some journalists because the president said this is war and theyre following his wishes. This behavior is deliberately inciting violence. His mental state is obviously declining, and no rational persons could possibly claim that this is normal behavior. Unfortunately, Republicans in Congress will do nothing, even though the 25th Amendment is there for a purpose like this.
True Dough
(17,255 posts)"They purposely cause great division & distrust. They can also cause War!"
This is all about him.
elleng
(130,749 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)...Party is finally revealed as the repulsive, greedy, cruel democracy-hating slugs it has been since at least 1992.
Jim__
(14,063 posts)Yes, of course, they are. Why they are not like us at all!
Please tell us all abut them, Donnie. Unite us against them!
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)elleng
(130,749 posts)They are very dangerous & sick!'
Projection MUCH?
heaven05
(18,124 posts)JDC
(10,117 posts)riversedge
(70,092 posts)Farmergene
(76 posts)... When you live the lies you are trying to make everyone else believe, and the "news" loops it back to you in 3 part harmony with solos and harmony..
He'll probably blow a gasket. The Doctors will say 'aneurysm' and he'll spend the rest if his life in a hospital
C_U_L8R
(44,990 posts)which may come for the whole rotten bunch, when justice prevails
leanforward
(1,076 posts)Listening to and watching MSNBC, other sources, and my lifes experience. With today's tweet, he's gone over the divide.
The enemy of the People is pRezident dRumpf.
Leave the press alone. OUR Society is based on Freedom of the Press to help guide me and others in the conduct and/or performance of our duly elected leaders.
amlehn
(15 posts)I work in tech for a company that owns several newspapers. The largest one is in my building. We recently got an email that security procedures have changed and visitors are no longer able to come in without being checked. As in like even family. We have security officers that check the grounds around the clock as a lot of our reporters have unusual hours and tech will not let them work from home. I'm thinking I probably need to get a different job. But I like what I do!!!
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)America was teetering on the precipice when the boneheaded right wing electorate decided that that orange moron would be the person best to represent the GOP as it's standard bearer and elected that whole ass as their nominee. We fell into it when good people accepted the notion that challenging trump's election as a fraud was just "sore-loserism" and that we "should just give him a chance" with the utterance "how bad can it get". We now know that trump got assistance from putin, many of us believe that actual vote totals were changed, many gave trump and chance, and now it's terrible and getting worse. Despite this we still have a good number on the left failing to recognize our current situation and still willing to find some sort of middle ground with this disease infecting our country and spreading rapidly around the world. What kind of situation are we in? We are in a civil war and there can be no compromise with evil. Our democracy isn't in danger, our democracy has collapsed. No my friend, we have already fallen into the precipice, and with this only two choices are left: fight or submit. Both choices require a sacrifice. Should one choose to fight, one will have to sacrifice their comfort, should one choose to submit one will have to sacrifice their morality. As for me, I'll keep my morality.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He is purposely causing great division and distrust. He is also the one who is going to get us into a war if he is not removed asap.
He needs to go by any means possible.
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)No major public figure has ever been given Donald Trump's increasingly mad leeway. Vlad Putin is beginning to look more sane on the world stage. This is becoming truly beyond the current McConnell Republican pettiness. If I were to survive a nuclear blast tomorrow.Please, Mr. Putin! Lock Trump up!
RainCaster
(10,842 posts)BSdetect
(8,995 posts)What is this idiot not capable of?
Demovictory9
(32,423 posts)Response to madaboutharry (Original post)
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workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)He wants to overthrow democracy in the USA for his master Putin.
His cultists are pulling off their masks as well and showing their allegiance to Russia over the USA.
I hope their is still time to save this country but its gonna be a real close thing.
TryLogic
(1,722 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,104 posts)today. (or beginning the process in earnest). This fucker is causing the loss of everything we hold dear in America.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)No surprise.
I thought the news media was going to band together against this fascist ba**ard?
They better get on the stick before Shitler outlaws all but Fox & Friends.