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Wed Aug 8, 2018, 07:37 PM

I will not support any candidate under criminal indictment

Other than that, I'll support any candidate on the Democratic ticket.

Which makes it easy because the candidates under indictment are, so far as I can tell, Republicans.

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Reply I will not support any candidate under criminal indictment (Original post)
Xipe Totec Aug 2018 OP
TomSlick Aug 2018 #1
Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #2
TomSlick Aug 2018 #3
Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #4
TomSlick Aug 2018 #5
Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #6
TomSlick Aug 2018 #9
Whiskeytide Aug 2018 #7
ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #8

Response to Xipe Totec (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 08:36 PM

1. Careful what lines you draw.

I can see Trump's DoJ indicting a couple of Democrats just to take off some heat.

Yeah, I'm a suspicious cuss.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:03 PM

2. So, you think Trump actually controls the DOJ?

You really think the Department of Justice is corrupt?

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Response to Xipe Totec (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:20 PM

3. I think that US Attorneys are Trump appointees.

Meaning they are all "good" Republicans. There are ninety-three US Attorneys. One of them would follow such an order.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 11:30 AM

4. Is Muller a 'good ' Republican? Is Rosenstein? Strzok?

You're saying the Justice Department is corrupt?

Did you watch Strzok's testimony?



ďThe suggestion that I, in some dark chamber somewhere in the F.B.I., would somehow cast aside all of these procedures, all of these safeguards, and somehow be able to do this is astounding to me. It simply couldnít happen. And the proposition that this is going on, that it might occur anywhere in the F.B.I., deeply corrodes what the F.B.I. is in this society, the effectiveness of their mission, and it is deeply destructive.

- Peter Strzok

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 06:42 PM

5. I wasn't clear.

I'm just concerned that there might be a US Attorney out there that would like to make points with the party by creating a diversion.

I hope I am being overly cynical. (I often am.)

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 06:54 PM

6. That's why Strzok's rebuttal is important

Watch the video. It will open your eyes.

Sowing doubt and confusion about the DOJ and especially the FBI is a Republican mantra at the moment. One that we should in no way echo or support.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 07:21 PM

9. Strzok is FBI - not a US Attorney.

I'm not casting aspersions about the FBI or the career personnel at the DOJ. I don't doubt the career prosecutors in individual US Attorney's offices.

While US Attorneys are political appointees, I am confident that the vast majority of them are good and professional attorneys. My concern is that it will only take one US Attorney out there looking to make a name with the party to launch a political prosecution.

I'm the worst of all possible worlds, a cynic and a worrier.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 07:10 PM

7. It's a new world of corruption and ...

... partisan politics this asshole has has wrought in our government and institutions, and we have to stop applying the standards from the past. Meuller and Rosenstein are career professionals from the previous era. They can separate their personal politics from their job. Iím not so sure all of the new guys can or are even inclined to do that. Just imagine if Steven Miller had obtained a law degree in his spare time between klan rallies in college (entirely possible - you can get a law degree in night school). If he had been appointed to an AG position, do you think there is anything he wouldnít do to push his twisted agenda and that of Trump? I donít know if there is a Miller among Trumpís appointees, but can you be sure thereís not?

Iím not picking at you, and Iím sorry for jumping into this conversation between you and another poster. I genuinely wish I could say I agree with you that institutions like the DOJ and FBI are above reproach. They should be, and Iím inclined to think most of them still are. But Trump is on a mission to undermine them for that very reason, and I am kind of cynical about what Iíve seen this last year and a half. I never say never anymore when it comes to how low they are willing to go.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Original post)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 07:18 PM

8. So if HRC came back, I couldn't support her?

Oh wait, she was never under criminal indictment. That was all (and continues to be) just a bunch of GOP smoke.

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