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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBen Jealous: "I'm a venture capitalist, not a socialist.
I have never referred to myself as a socialist nor would I govern as one.
On Wednesday, the former NAACP chief was asked at a news conference whether he identified with the term socialist, as his political opponent, Gov. Larry Hogan (R), has labeled him.
Are you f---ing kidding me? Jealous responded, visibly surprising some of the Democratic elected officials who had gathered to endorse him.
Link to tweet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/asked-if-he-identifies-with-the-term-socialist-ben-jealous-drops-an-f-bomb/2018/08/08/1f67ca30-9b2b-11e8-b60b-1c897f17e185_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.059f47e05c97
FSogol
(45,481 posts)of Jealous being a tax and spend socialist. The GOP uses the same scary play book whether it fits or not. Rest assured, Ben Jealous is the most liberal person running in this race.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)I'm happy he won the primary, and hope he wins office in November.
I also have no problem with his identification as a "venture capitalist" or the work he does in that capacity. I don't see the designation as negative. Jealous invests in people who have good ideas, but who need funds to start up and have difficulty in finding investors.
But by vocation, at least since he joined the firm Kapor Capital in 2014, Jealous is a venture capitalist, albeit one focused on creating opportunities for people normally left behind in the 21st-century economy, and particularly the tech sector. Hes grown accustomed to mentioning this affiliation whenever he is asked, as anyone close to Bernie Sanders often is, whether he is a socialist.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/ben-jealous-deploys-logic-f-bomb-against-socialism-charge.html
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)That most Dems don't know HOW to message better, and then hammer thuglicans over their heads with a strong message continuously, efficiently ruthlessly like thuglicans do vs them
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)It's pretty remarkable that "venture capitalist" immediately sounds evil in some quarters especially among those who don't even know what it means.
I also admire Jealous's particular brand of "venture capitalism". He invests in people who would otherwise have their very good projects wither due to lack of funding.
What I do have a problem with is partisans who insist that "socialism" (however they define it) is the only way forward for Democrats.
brooklynite
(94,513 posts)Every Republican isn't a Trump Republican and Hogan has approx 70% positive ratings; this isn't a Governorship that's going to flip.
Meanwhile:
Illinois
New Mexico
Alaska
Florida
Iowa
Maine
Michigan
Nevada
Ohio
Georgia
Wisconsin
Arizona
Kansas
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Hogan is very popular here on all sides. I have not seen any recent polling but I suspect Hogan would be leading by at least 15 points.
Also, I dont think Ben was the best candidate to go against Hogan. We needed someone more mainstream, moderate and well known like a Martin O'Malley type.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)It's the "it really doesn't matter" part that I find defeatist going forward.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)But I think brooklynite is totally focused on winning which I also understand.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)that it is a waste of time to work hard now to build the narrative and the party going forward, even in places where results will likely not be seen this cycle.
It's unnecessarily dismissive of people's local efforts.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)While we wont win this seat, this is what we need.
People love the fifty state strategy except when they hate it. This is building a narrative for the future.
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)I'm not trying to question or raise doubts about Jealous's commitment to Democratic Party core values and principles, the Democratic platform, or our Party's vision going forward.
My real point is that Ben Jealous is the expert on his own, personal political philosophy and that the Democratic Party is a big tent.
There is nothing out of place with his comment when it comes to fitting into the party. Everyone from Bernie Sanders to Joe Manchin has dipped into venture capitalism.