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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOhio soybean farmer who voted for Trump because he's a "can-do guy" is "getting his butt kicked"
What were seeing with market action here today only exacerbates the fact that we have lost our number one customer because of the trade wars, Gibbs said.
Although Gibbs voted for Trump because hes a can-do guy and acted like he could get things done, and thats true, what the Ohio farmer did not realize was that he and others like him would be thrown into a battle they never asked for.
What we didnt realize was that we were going to be put on the frontlines of this trade war and demonize our number one customer, Gibbs said. Ive got a cracked pelvis just from getting my butt kicked based on these prices.
https://www.newsweek.com/farmer-soybean-industry-devastated-tariffs-trump-trade-war-1069593
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/opinion/trump-trade-war-china-soybean-farmer.html
Opinion
I Am a Soybean Farmer Hurt by Trumps Trade War. I Cant Take It.
By Christopher Gibbs
In this video Op-Ed, an Ohio farmer and Trump voter, Christopher Gibbs, tells the president how agriculture country really feels about the escalating trade war with China.
MrScorpio
(73,626 posts)No good ingrate.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)to understand that he was leaning for a con man, a fraud, doesn't give him the right to bash the man-child now...just get creative, find out what else you can do with your soy beans, like maybe shove them up your...well, you get the idea.
TheBlackAdder
(28,076 posts)Texin
(2,585 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)tanyev
(42,360 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,163 posts)Major Nikon
(36,814 posts)Trump promised tariffs with China and if this guy was worth a shit as a soybean farmer he should have known who his customers are and what the fallout was going to be.
Sending thoughts and prayers his way stat.
33taw
(2,420 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)than millions of Americans dealing with healthcare costs, low wages, immigration issues, ICE brutality, racial bigotry, sexism - and a whole host of other issues.
Welcome to the club. Next time, invest more thought in ALL of us. FWIW, we've (democrats) have always fought for - and cared about - agriculture.
lapfog_1
(29,166 posts)for some of that $12B of taxpayer money Trump is spreading around to the soybean farmers.
screw the other victims of the trade war... but the farmers in the Midwest are going to get some nice welfare.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)RestoreAmerica2020
(3,433 posts)I really don't care, do you!
3Hotdogs
(12,210 posts)in China don't come back? Will the $12B be renewed every year? How much will he get? How much of the loss will it cover?
On like others, I don't have any prayers to offer him but I do have some thoughts about him and his fellow voters.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Healthcare, immigration, racism, sexism...all that and more happens to other people. Not him. It's not supposed to happen to him.
That's why he's butthurt.
DFW
(54,055 posts)To me, the worst part is that Gibbs, knowing what he now knows, would vote for Trump again. I don't know if Gibbs thinks that his mama "didn't raise no dummy," but she sure as hell didn't raise a genius.
lindysalsagal
(20,444 posts)Why is he complaining? He kept HRC out of office. That was all that mattered.
Boomerproud
(7,889 posts)All of the posts have been brilliant! NO SYMPATHY FOR MR. GIBBS.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,789 posts)Coventina
(26,874 posts)Trump repeatedly said he'd go after China in the campaign.
STFU
heaven05
(18,124 posts)we all have dumptrump. I cry no tears of empathy until he and all of the rest of his voting base say I'm voting for a Democrat next time. Otherwise, he did it to himself and hi s family
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Get to the back of the line.
Botany
(70,291 posts)President Trump tweeted this morning: "Tariffs are the greatest!" From the "I Alone Can Fix It" candidate, he's turned to a trade war. But 4.5 months after levying his steel/aluminum tariffs, this is what industries across the country are now facing, and at an accelerating pace:
9:44 AM - Jul 24, 2018
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)what a coward
Botany
(70,291 posts).... his boss, Vlad Putin, wants him to do.
mcar
(42,210 posts)JDC
(10,084 posts)Sorta throw him a bone.
Got exactly what you voted for Mr Gibbs. Try bootstraps for dinner tonight, they're delicious.
Autumn
(44,762 posts)Racerdog1
(808 posts)"I love the poorly educated". This guy is living proof.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 12, 2018, 11:14 PM - Edit history (5)
The comments that this guy and other Trump supporters make causes me to ask what news programs were they watching during the election campaign. Mr. Gibbs stated he did not realize he would be thrown into a trade war for which he did not ask. A major part of Trump's campaign was that he was going to levy tariffs on China and other countries that maintained trade surpluses with the United States. Mr. Gibbs then stated he did not realize that Trump would demonize the number one customer of the soybean farmers. Another major part of Trump's campaign was demonizing China. How many speeches did Trump give where he did not demonize China? Most of Trump's speeches either demonized China, demonized Hillary Clinton, or demonized Barack Obama.
Are some Trump supporters just trying to gaslight the people who did not vote for Trump in order to get sympathy for themselves? Did people like Mr. Gibbs vote for Trump thinking Trump would not go through on these policies? Did they think China would just give up once Trump was elected and a trade war would not be necessary? I do not see how these people did not see this coming. This is exactly what Trump campaigned on for more than a year.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I think they really did think other countries would just give up.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)Seriously, I don't give a rat's ass about people like Gibbs. For them, the concept of pain and sacrifice was fine as long as it was going to happen to someone else. For all I care, he can stick his MAGA hat up his ass while the sheriff is booting him off of his farm.
dembotoz
(16,739 posts)catbyte
(34,174 posts)WinstonSmith4740
(3,048 posts)But I'm assuming he's planning on voting for Trump again.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)and then bask in the idiot's shitstorm. The tragedy is all the people that voted for Mrs. Clinton have to endure said shitstorm. Maybe this will awaken Americans who didn't vote or voted with hatred of "others" in their heart. I am skeptical. Never underestimate the stupidity of haters or the apathy of the lazy.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,260 posts)chance whatsoever that tRumpsters are EVER going to not support the Orange Douche's every action. They cannot grasp the whole picture, he told them what he was going to do but they got distracted by lock her up and juvenile name calling from Cheeto. Now that they are directly impacted they themselves are doubling down on their own stupidity. I say let them go, they are a new version of a lost generation.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Wakeup White People! You are being had!
Paladin
(28,204 posts)You helped bring on this clusterfuck---any misfortunes you suffer are self-inflicted and well-deserved.
blue-wave
(4,317 posts)maybe Q will save you next time....if there is a next time.
Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)and a haircut this hippy can get a real job.
paleotn
(17,781 posts)I have zero sympathy. Reap it, you morons!!!
sarge43
(28,939 posts)Actions have consequences.
Man up and stop whining about being conned and beaten up.
stopbush
(24,378 posts)Turbineguy
(37,212 posts)At least he got what he voted for.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Ha, Ha, Ha...........you got exactly what you asked for - you get no sympathy from me!!
Vinca
(50,170 posts)Submariner
(12,485 posts)so these Trump voters should be grateful their families got away with it and just STFU.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)Takket
(21,425 posts)This lazy ass bastard voted for drumpf because he was hoping he could clasp blacks in chains to do all his work for him as slaves while he sits on the porch with a whip and lemonade.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps you deplorable idiot.
NO SYMPATHY
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Pepsidog
(6,252 posts)you stupid, arrogant dumbass who thought this flaming moron of a president wouldnt screw up the world order. I hope you lose your farm to an immigrant you hillbilly prick
Squinch
(50,774 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)BumRushDaShow
(127,312 posts)and would never be enough to compensate for all of the produce and manufacturing goods that are getting walloped at the moment.
In essence, it would the equivalent of throwing a roll of paper towels at them.
And at this point, this goes to show that they didn't vote for him for "economic" reasons.
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pamdb
(1,331 posts)It terms I'm sure you will understand, "you reap what you sow". Unfortunately, so do the rest of us.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Trump campaigned on TARIFFS! If he'd watched the Republican debates, which he probably did not, he would have known the damage that the tariffs could wreak on American businesses. Jeb Bush, Romney, & others made that clear in the debates.
So is he saying that he is okay with wrecking American businesses, as long as it's not HIS?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)keopeli
(3,461 posts)Now, he gets attention simply because he is willing to risk the wrath of trumpers after losing TONS of money.
I am happy to accept the apologies and reversals of those who made a mistake, but this man is ONLY regretful about being caught in trumps crosshairs while trying to line his own pockets.
I can imagine, with great clarity, what trump would say if HE were a soybean farmer in this man's shoes. Being the narcissist who is focused exclusively on his own self-interest at the expense of all else (including patriotism), trump might have used these exact words once his pocketbook was hit.
Finally, think of this: this white male wealthy farmer saw an enormous windfall when the rebulicunistas voted to lower his taxes at the expense of so much else and he said nothing. Now, he has seen a reversal of fortune where the tax cut he expected has been yanked away from him just so trump can make money for himself and his family!
Sorry, white male wealthy soybean farmer, your whining is falling on deaf ears.
BumRushDaShow
(127,312 posts)Who in the hell did they think the person they voted for was railing against while running for election back in 2016?
Trump targets China trade, says plans serious measures
Reuters Staff
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump threatened on Wednesday to slap tariffs on Chinese products to show Beijing that the United States is not playing games anymore when it comes to leveling the field on trade.
Addressing a rally in Tampa, Florida, Trump said that if he was elected in November, he would instruct the U.S. trade representative to bring cases against China both in the United States and at the World Trade Organization.
Tariffs would be necessary in some cases because they have to understand that were not playing games anymore, he added. Trump had previously pledged a 45 percent tariff on Chinese goods.
Trump said on Wednesday that the trade deficit with China was more than $500 billion, although the figure given by the U.S. government put it at $367 billion in 2015. The United States has brought cases against China at the WTO, and U.S. officials have frequently slapped antidumping and countervailing duties on Chinese products under U.S. law based on complaints brought by U.S. producers.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-germany/germany-says-trumps-tariffs-sanctions-destroy-jobs-and-growth-idUSKBN1KX0CD
Mr. "Can Do" DID a big DOO DOO on them, didn't he?
riversedge
(69,727 posts)TrishaJ
(797 posts)he did get something done, didn't he? Putting you out of business.
onecaliberal
(32,489 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)he better not read the hundreds of comments posted on the NY Times link! Brutal.
99.9% are ripping him a new asshole. There's some really great, thoughtful comments worth reading. (just like here!)
oasis
(49,152 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,849 posts)No sympathy for these suckers
ProfessorPlum
(11,252 posts)Different Drummer
(7,532 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,827 posts)can do bankruptcy?
can do ripping off small and mid sized contractors?
can do failed business ventures?
can do marrying multiple times?
can do adultery?