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Funtatlaguy

(10,855 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:01 AM Aug 2018

The BIG question - what REALLY happened - and where America is headed.

I keep trying to see thru and past all of the distractions and diversions.
The old adage to always follow the money only takes us so far.
Yes, it appears that Trump was compromised/blackmailed/co-opted by Russia.
But, when and by whom and for whom?

How do the real powers in this country...think Mercer’s, Koch’s, Adelsons types...figure in.
They knew Trump was a useful idiot.
They knew Russia helped him win.
They were thrilled by that and by not getting Hillary.

But why did they want him?
Would they have preferred a Rubio or Cruz or some other Republican.
That is really hard to answer.
We know that Trump himself neither expected nor wanted to win.
He just wanted the higher profile, branding, and money (whether it came domestically or from Russians).

But when he won (or it was manipulated successfully by any number of ways), the powers that be had to see how to handle him. Could he be managed? And by whom?
Would he live up to any deal to approve their tax cuts and deregulation (the only things they really cared about).
Yes, at first. With the added bonuses of him approving all of the pro corporatist judges that they recommended to him thru the Heritage Foundation and Other front groups.

But, the fly in the ointment was Trumps going rogue on trade.
The tariffs really pissed them off.
They really don’t like his isolationist non globalist views.
So, they are probably deciding right now if their useful idiot has outlived his usefulness.
Will Rupert Murdoch and other media power brokers turn on him in favor of Pence.
Can they wait until 2020 to dump him.
It’s too late now to do it before the midterms.
They know the Dems will take the House (unless they truly do have access to enuf source codes in enuf states to actually change enuf vote tally results).

But, maybe that’s ok with them.
Let the Dems in a new majority in the House in 2019 do the dirty work in voting for Articles of Impeachment. Then, behind the scenes while the Senate hems and haws about trying to find 67 votes, the power people let Trump know that he better resign or, at least, not run in 2020 or they will turn on him. They will threaten to release all of Muellers findings when the report is finalized and Dish even more dirt that people like Mark Burnett and others have on him.

Whatever happens, you know that the power people have a PLAN A, B, and C.
We only live in their world. They make the rules.
They will decide soon which way to take America and what our post Trump country will look like.


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The BIG question - what REALLY happened - and where America is headed. (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Aug 2018 OP
This story has more layers than the proverbial onion. Arkansas Granny Aug 2018 #1
The Mercer's were very public about wanting cruz initially. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2018 #2
My nightmare is this... Zoonart Aug 2018 #3
Right there with you on that possible scenario. Scary. Funtatlaguy Aug 2018 #4

Arkansas Granny

(31,483 posts)
1. This story has more layers than the proverbial onion.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:20 AM
Aug 2018

It will takes years after Trump's gone for the truth to be sifted out and decades before the damage he has done to be set right.

Zoonart

(11,747 posts)
3. My nightmare is this...
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 08:14 AM
Aug 2018

What if Trump was Russia's Trojan Horse? He was up to his eyeballs in debt and kompromat to them and they used him to get inside the gates?

Now they don't need him any more, because he has served his purpose... bringing mike Pence to the White House.

I know that Pence is dirty and it was Manafort that brought him to the campaign. He oversaw the transition where all the shady Flynn contacts occurred.

I think they are ready to burn Trump down and install Pence. All of the right wing pundits that we think are on our side are not.
They will all sing hosanna when the "godly", "clean" Pence takes the oval.

The Republicans and all of the national pundits in the MSM will argue to "Give him a chance".
I can hear it now..." Our long Trump nightmare is over...time for the nation to come together behind this President." "No more investigations... bury the truth... the nation is too fragile to handle the truth."

It will be all hail President Pence... that is when the real nightmare begins.

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