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John Kelly shut it down aid to PR (Original Post) HipChick Aug 2018 OP
We must not forget that John Kelly edhopper Aug 2018 #1
Yeah PatSeg Aug 2018 #26
"They don't speak English. They don't integrate well; they don't have skills." dalton99a Aug 2018 #2
Sounds like people talking about his Irish forefathers back in the day nt BamaRefugee Aug 2018 #18
Nope. His father-in- law.. Grins Aug 2018 #19
Probably like Kelly's Irish ancestors PatSeg Aug 2018 #35
Some of John Kelly's ancestors never learned English csziggy Aug 2018 #36
Even if Omarosa is making this stuff up... Girard442 Aug 2018 #3
I really don't think she has to make up anything. bitterross Aug 2018 #8
I wouldn't put it past her to make things up, PatSeg Aug 2018 #17
These guys are making... yallerdawg Aug 2018 #4
Illegal war and invasions. SamKnause Aug 2018 #7
Yes. jayschool2013 Aug 2018 #14
Oh, please. Bush a human but not decent. Cheney not human and distinctly evil. erronis Aug 2018 #11
not really. just more of the same but worse. TeamPooka Aug 2018 #16
If she has tapes of this then put it out there, people shouldn't take her word for it uponit7771 Aug 2018 #5
I take her word for it happy feet Aug 2018 #21
Kelly is another white supremacist awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #6
He showed his true colors Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2018 #20
And he never apologized for his lies malaise Aug 2018 #22
what's the big deal? heaven05 Aug 2018 #23
Puerto Ricans on the island can't vote for president but Puerto Ricans here in America can. brush Aug 2018 #29
Think most of us know Puerto Ricans can't vote awesomerwb1 Aug 2018 #33
Put a Fork Into John Kelly--He Is Done! DoctorJoJo Aug 2018 #9
And his girlfriend was appointed to run homeland. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #27
Wait, what? You mean the unfeeling Neilsen is Kelly's girl friend? brush Aug 2018 #30
She was his Aide de camp...from what Ive seen, theyre all in bed together. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #31
We are spending over a trillion dollars for a security system that was just hacked by a ten year old. cutroot Aug 2018 #10
Agree, but this should be an OP since it is not talking about Kelley and Puerto Rico aid. erronis Aug 2018 #12
Omarosa was on board with ALL of this MontanaMama Aug 2018 #13
this, for sure nt heaven05 Aug 2018 #24
We know who she is but if she helps bring down trump and the repugs I'm all for it. brush Aug 2018 #32
I get that. MontanaMama Aug 2018 #34
after everything she says about them just add: "And I was fine with it then." TeamPooka Aug 2018 #15
I used to wonder why the highest ranking military officials didn't take matters into their own hands GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #25
Well That Should Certainly Get Those Who Are Here Me. Aug 2018 #28
Of course she was the hero, fighting for aid for Puerto Rico. Chemisse Aug 2018 #37

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
26. Yeah
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:26 AM
Aug 2018

He is a pretty nasty, xenophobic, racist, misogynistic asshole. He may have looked the part, but underneath the veneer, he is a slightly smarter version of his boss. I wonder what decisions he is making behind the scenes. Maybe he thinks he is the real president.

Grins

(7,203 posts)
19. Nope. His father-in- law..
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:53 PM
Aug 2018

He was an Italian immigrant who pushed a cart through streets of Boston and NEVER learned English.

csziggy

(34,133 posts)
36. Some of John Kelly's ancestors never learned English
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 05:09 PM
Aug 2018
How John Kelly’s family history compares with the immigrants he wants to keep from entering
By Philip Bump
May 11

<SNIP>

His great-grandfather John Edward Kelly was born in Maine, the son of parents who immigrated from Canada. While the name “Kelly” implies Irish immigration, that probably resulted from the famine of the late 1840s. John Edward Kelly’s parents — Chief of Staff Kelly’s great-great-grandparents — were already in Canada when the famine began.

His great-grandmother Mary Connelly came to the United States after the famine from near Clifden, Ireland, in County Galway. (Most of Kelly’s immigrant ancestors came in the late 1800s.) It’s not clear specifically where she came from, but the town is a small one on the coast surrounded by farmland.

His great-grandfather Joseph (Giuseppe) Pedalino came from near the Italian town of Avellino. Researcher Jennifer Mendelsohn, with whom Pattangall shared her research, dug further into Kelly’s family history. (We’ve featured her research in the past.) She found Pedalino’s naturalization papers that indicate that he came from Quadrelle province, a small region in the Italian foothills.

<SNIP>

On his mother’s side, Kelly’s great-grandfathers worked as a wagon driver and fruit peddler, according to Mendelsohn’s research. These were not skilled positions, obviously. It’s not clear that any of Kelly’s immigrant ancestors had significant educational backgrounds.

Then there’s the issue of language. This can be trickier to determine, but census forms used to include questions about languages spoken. From one such record, Mendelsohn learned that John DeMarco, the fruit peddler, still didn’t speak English after more than a decade in the country. His wife Crescenza — Kelly’s great-grandmother — lived in the United States for more than 30 years without learning the language.

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/11/how-john-kellys-family-history-compares-to-the-immigrants-he-wants-to-keep-from-entering/?utm_term=.7fde62ccbf0d

Girard442

(6,066 posts)
3. Even if Omarosa is making this stuff up...
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 01:44 PM
Aug 2018

...it was pretty obvious that something like that actually did happen.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
8. I really don't think she has to make up anything.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:46 PM
Aug 2018

They are such horrible people I'm not sure she can make up stuff that is worse than the truth. Their actions show this over and over again.

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
17. I wouldn't put it past her to make things up,
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:05 PM
Aug 2018

but with these people, she doesn't have to. She probably has far more to work with than we can imagine. These are not cautious people, they are reckless, impulsive, and self-serving. Omarosa is calculating and clever. Obviously the idiots underestimated her.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. These guys are making...
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 01:48 PM
Aug 2018

Bush and Cheney look like decent human beings.

Everything really is relative, isn't it?

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
7. Illegal war and invasions.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:33 PM
Aug 2018

Torture.

Deaths of our soldiers.

Hundreds of 1000's of deaths of innocent civilians.

Destroying countries.

Cheney making billions for Halliburton.

There is nothing decent about them.

Republicans are EVIL LIARS.

The Bush administration and the Trump administration, EVIL LIARS one and all !!!

erronis

(15,216 posts)
11. Oh, please. Bush a human but not decent. Cheney not human and distinctly evil.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:48 PM
Aug 2018

Yes everything is relative. The repuglicon curve of repugnance is down at the bottom of the septic tank.

After having Barack Hussein Obama as our most recent decent president, I can't think of a repuglicon since perhaps Eisenhower that has any equivalence to BO.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
5. If she has tapes of this then put it out there, people shouldn't take her word for it
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 01:52 PM
Aug 2018

... even though I wouldn't put it past those infant stealing bastards.

They some bastards

happy feet

(866 posts)
21. I take her word for it
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:30 PM
Aug 2018

So far, whrn people contradict her she releases a tape showing they are lying and she is not.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
6. Kelly is another white supremacist
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 01:52 PM
Aug 2018

who's happy to inflict pain upon others.

If true, this is appalling. It led to needless suffering and death.

I hope Puerto Ricans hear about this and get even more motivated to vote.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
23. what's the big deal?
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:05 AM
Aug 2018

he is a repthuglikkkan. A few of us pointed that out when he took over his job at the WH. He is a snake. And if in the service I WOULD NOT want this POS as a commanding officer. He would be racist and uncaring about casualties👴🏽

brush

(53,758 posts)
29. Puerto Ricans on the island can't vote for president but Puerto Ricans here in America can.
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:52 AM
Aug 2018

Hope this motivates all Puerto Ricans in the states to get registered if they're not and to please vote in Nov.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
33. Think most of us know Puerto Ricans can't vote
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:58 AM
Aug 2018

unless they're in the US mainland.

A lot of them have moved into the mainland (FL and NY from what I've heard) after Maria, and hopefully have registered to vote in their new communities, thus my comment.

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
9. Put a Fork Into John Kelly--He Is Done!
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:17 PM
Aug 2018

For all those who thought he was a moderating force to control Trump, Kelly is a proven Liar and Racist, and this just expands on his evil. He is as bad as Trump and complicit in his evil, not a check on same!

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
31. She was his Aide de camp...from what Ive seen, theyre all in bed together.
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:56 AM
Aug 2018

In this day and age, you have to assume the worst or be surprised by it when it hits you. What do YOU think? She seems bereft of skill to be heading the dhs. kellys hope hicks imho.

cutroot

(875 posts)
10. We are spending over a trillion dollars for a security system that was just hacked by a ten year old.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:46 PM
Aug 2018

Grand Total: $1.09 Trillion

That final annual tally of nearly $1.1 trillion to pay for past wars, fund current wars, and prepare for possible future conflicts is roughly double the already staggering $575 billion the Trump administration has proposed as the Pentagon’s regular budget for 2018. Most taxpayers have no idea that more than a trillion dollars a year is going to what’s still called “defense,” but these days might equally be called national insecurity.

So the next time you hear the president, the secretary of defense, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or a hawkish lawmaker claim that the U.S. military is practically collapsing from a lack of funding, don’t believe it for a second. Donald Trump may finally have put plutocracy in the Oval Office, but a militarized version of it has long been ensconced in the Pentagon and the rest of the national security state. In government terms, make no mistake about it, the Pentagon & Co. are the 1%.

https://lobelog.com/the-trillion-dollar-national-security-budget/

MontanaMama

(23,297 posts)
13. Omarosa was on board with ALL of this
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:51 PM
Aug 2018

until she got fired. She'd still be there had they not kicked her out of the club. She's getting payback and while I'm enjoying it, she showed us who she is and we shouldn't forget that.

brush

(53,758 posts)
32. We know who she is but if she helps bring down trump and the repugs I'm all for it.
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:56 AM
Aug 2018

The enemy of my enemy...

MontanaMama

(23,297 posts)
34. I get that.
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 11:08 AM
Aug 2018

I really do. And if she can bring down the fall of those criminals, I’m all for it too. I’ll be surprised if she can, however. Nothing seems to stick for very long on this maladministration. I keep thinking that something’s gotta give and it hasn’t...so far. Fingers crossed.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
25. I used to wonder why the highest ranking military officials didn't take matters into their own hands
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:20 AM
Aug 2018

and deal with the traitor in the White House, and everyone associated with them. And, than I realized that John Kelly is one of them. The sickening thing is that Omarossa is likely telling the truth about him here.

Chemisse

(30,806 posts)
37. Of course she was the hero, fighting for aid for Puerto Rico.
Fri Aug 17, 2018, 05:45 PM
Aug 2018

I don't believe that.

While I welcome the insights into the Trump administration's disgusting behavior, I loathe the self-serving self-righteousness of the source.

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