Who is the "most electable" in 2020?

[ecstatic]

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	Michael Avenatti
	0 (0%)
	Tom Steyer (From NeedToImpeach ads)
	0 (0%)
	Elizabeth Warren
	4 (12%)
	Bernie Sanders
	2 (6%)
	Kamala Harris
	6 (18%)
	Martin O'Malley
	2 (6%)
	Joe Biden
	14 (41%)
	Corey Booker
	2 (6%)
	Any (non-political) celebrity
	0 (0%)
	Other
	4 (12%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[True Dough]

1. I'm starting a write-in vote

for ecstatic.

"Do you want a president who will be ecstatic or not?"

[ecstatic]

3. lol. nt

[Scoopster]

2. O'Malley!!

[PBC_Democrat]

4. I'd like to see a Governor from a 'non-coastal liberal' state

I think we need to run someone NOT from CA, MA, or NY.
Sen Harris would make an excellent VP pick but not the top spot on the ticket.

We really need to figure out how to span the urban-rural divide!

It seems like all of the Ds are clustered in the major cities and that is not a winning formula for us.

[Hekate]

42. Regarding your last sentence: that's because most of the population is clustered in the major cities

...and along the two coasts. At least that's how I read it.

I don't know what to do about the rural parts of the country. The vast middle of the continent does not have even 50% of the population. They are not diverse, as we think of diverse (think of Lake Woebegone, where diversity is the Catholics, the Lutherans, and the Methodists, and an ethnic mix of Swedes and Norwegians). They distrust diversity -- they think it's an elitist plot. They think America is supposed to be a white country. Just ask Laura Ingraham.

I apologize to any DUers who live in these areas. I hate saying these terrible generalizations out loud -- it makes me feel like a bigot, but we have a problem. Hillary tried hard to reach out to these areas, and to this day there are DUers repeating the falsehood that she did not even visit or talk about specific rural problems.

Nonetheless America managed to elect both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and it took a terrible act of treason to keep Hillary from the White House.

Our first problem is to deal with the acts of treason. To deal with voting machines that cast your ballot for you and then count it. To deal with gerrymandering.

It is much too early to talk about our pick for president. It is almost too late to talk about the other stuff.

[Hortensis]

70. Yes. Midwest Democrats didn't come out in proper numbers,

for instance. Those who didn't betrayed not only themselves but they betrayed the legacy those who came before bequeathed to us and they betrayed their descendants.

Ecstatic, you put amateur bantam weights like Avenatti and Steyer on the poll and not HILLARY CLINTON?

I feel that we have huge unfinished business we should be achieving right now and that electing Hillary AGAIN would be an excellent way to end this tragic derailment of democracy and make America America again.

[msongs]

5. where is the preferred choice of the "democratic socialists"?

[Hekate]

43. Ahem

[Stinky The Clown]

55. Aheh-ahem

d'accord

[NewJeffCT]

6. No idea

Politically, I probably like Warren the best, but I'm afraid she'd get hammered in a national election, as she still hasn't come up with a short, sharp response on the issue of her heritage. (Hillary never had a great response on the email issue, I thought) And, while I consider her charismatic as a Democrat, I'm not sure she would come across that way to moderates or disaffected Republicans.

I think Booker meets the smart, young and charismatic threshold like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, but I think he has some issues in his past that could be troubling to those that insist on purity - his support for charter schools, for one. However, he can be a really passionate speaker and I think can fire up the base. Plus, he played D&D when he was younger.

I like Joe Biden as well, but he's older than Democratic winners over the last half century - JFK, Carter, Clinton and Obama. However, he would be great at zinging Donny during a debate. My concern would be that he does make gaffes and with trump's ability to drive the news cycle, it would get magnified way out of proportion to any single thing done by Trump.

I also like Harris and would love to see if we have any good governors that can run.

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. Not sure any one there is.

Agree, until Warren clears up the heritage thing, she'd have a tough go of it. Even in Mass., she's being hammered by some.

I like Biden, but we need a fresher face.

[ecstatic]

16. Avenatti seems to be making a good impression in Iowa.

MSNBC showed clips of him basically going around the country speaking out against trump (at the border/ kids camps, etc). I like that he's fighting for us. I just wonder if people will give him a chance.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

8. Dems would be insane not to consider Sherrod Brown

He's on track to be re-elected by nearly 20 points this year on Ohio in a swing state that Trump won.
Solid liberal. Likeable guy, witty, quick on his feet and a great communicator.
He's walked the walk on blue collar issues, opposing NAFTA and corporate trade deals and gets rustbelt issues. And, unlike Trump, he means what he says and doesn't have a line of products with his daughter made in overseas sweatshops.

He should have been Hillary's v-p pick in 2016, but instead we got Bill's recommendation of Kaine, who brought zilch to the ticket.
After November, Brown should be someone who gets talked about in these 2020 discussions.

[Ohiogal]

28. You beat me to it

Everything you said about Sherrod Brown.

[Hoyt]

29. I like him a lot, although I think opposition to NAFTA, TPP, etc., is misplaced.

[sandensea]

9. I'd prefer Warren myself - but Big Joe's the only one who's a sure bet.

And the idea is to deny this regime a second term - which would be at least as catastrophic as Dubya's second term.

All our other policy differences pale in comparison.

[Cosmocat]

14. I think those two are the safest bets

I like Warren - smart, but tough, and has some folksiness to her.

But, Biden is going to have a lot of appeal because the entire government, and our political standing in the world, are going to be a raging dumpster fire, and I think he brings a lot of elements that people will want - he is known, he is tough, but likeable, classy, experienced, out of anyone else we might have on our side someone that other foreign leaders will be sure about ...

People are going to want sanity, and "no drama" after the 45 shitshow. He can do that.

If he wins the nomination, and gets a sharp VP on the ticket with him ... That probably will be the best way to go.

[sandensea]

21. It's nice to support a party with so many good choices.

Unlike the other party, whose choices range from the duplicitous to the deranged.

[ananda]

10. Adam Schiff!

nt

[bearsfootball516]

11. I'm really big on Cory Booker.

Smart, young, energetic, hell of a speaker, could possibly get the minority vote to come out in Obama-like numbers.

I also like Biden, the only thing that scares me is his age. Not that I personally think it's a problem, but I could see young voters sitting out because they don't feel like they can relate.

[Still In Wisconsin]

12. I like several from that list (Biden, Warren, Harris, Booker, O'Malley,) but if Biden decides to run

I think he's the favorite out of the gate.

BTW I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary, but I sincerely hope he does NOT run again. I'm a no on Steyer and a big no on Avenatti or other so-called "celebrities."

[unc70]

13. We can discuss this after November 2018

It is just a distraction now!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

22. This is a discussion forum and we are having a discussion

It's not distracting anybody here important from anything important at the moment.

Wish people would stop trying to shut down this discussion. It's a valid topic and we should feel free to discuss anything we like here. If you don't want it to distract you, feel free to read/comment on other threads.

[earthshine]

15. Al Franken. nt

[jpljr77]

17. Kirsten Gillibrand. That list is mostly tabloid junk.

Other than Harris and Booker, I wouldn't like to see anyone on that list even attempt to run. And it's not that I don't like them, it's just that I don't like them for president in 2020.

[ecstatic]

18. KG??? I don't know about that.... The Al Franken and Clinton

comments rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, but who knows!

[LuvLoogie]

19. Biden/Harris

[tinrobot]

60. This is the correct answer

[ProudLib72]

20. Biden/Harris 2020

Harris 2024 to 2032. Sorry, Joe, you're a great guy, but you are getting long in the tooth. Kamala as VP makes sense to get her imbedded in the public conscious.

[NCTraveler]

24. I think people will be shocked with what happens to Biden if he enters.

Really shocked. I don't think he will make it past the first round or two. Of course so much is dependent on who actually enters.

[Hekate]

39. I know. The jokes about "gaffe machine" just write themselves, and that's just on DU...

I love the guy, and I don't think he makes gaffes (much) but it's a meme. And just wait till they start in on his age and his health (brain tumor) -- and again, that's just on DU.

[NCTraveler]

46. Biden is awesome.

The revolt will start on day one when people are reminded how conservative some of his economic based votes have been. Many of his positions in that area stand in direct opposition to even the center of the party today.

Love Biden. I think he is a really good voice for us, and more. There is some serious selective memory going on when it comes to his past. I do understand that as he is awesome Uncle Joe.

Someone recently reminded me about this aspect and it did warm me up to him possibly running. Trump is decimating almost all corners of the federal government. For the most part, Biden is well respected and very knowledgeable by and about all corners of the federal government. It’s going to take serious resources just to put competent people back in place.

[Hekate]

61. Yes he is, and a thoroughly decent man, well matched to Barack O....

I so much do not want to fight about him.

[trueblue2007]

25. I STILL LOVE HILLARY AND THINK SHE WOULD HAVE MADE A WONDERFUL PRESIDENT !!!

[LuvLoogie]

67. If she ran, I'd vote for her.

[trueblue2007]

68. i would vote for also.

[Hortensis]

69. Yes. :) We have a great deal of planned and unstarted business.

I'd vote for Hillary to proceed with all of it without a second's hesitation -- IF I thought she was well up among our most likely to win. For all of them in these perilous times, that one's not negotiable.

[Doodley]

26. No option for Trump? He is the best candidate

for racists and other bigots.

[demmiblue]

27. I think Biden is the most electable, but not likely the person I would vote for...

in the primary.

[Hoyt]

30. Gonna have to wait and let the primaries shake it out. I'd vote for any of those, although I hope

a few don't make it through primaries or even get involved.

[redstatebluegirl]

31. Nobody if we don't take care of 2018.

[Squinch]

32. Exactly. If we don't win in November, there won't be an election in 2020.

At best there will be an election, but Russia will decide the outcome.

[Squinch]

33. TAMMY DUCKWORTH! With Adam Schiff as VP. Then I can die happy.

[Golden Raisin]

34. Could we please get through 2018 first which,

regardless of outcome, will be an historical election, perhaps determining the fate of our Republic.

[Recursion]

35. O'Malley or Harris are the only two realistically electable ones right now

The GOP oppo research on Sanders is brutal. Don't even talk about going there. Biden has lost two Twitter "debates" with Trump already. Wrong temperament to take him on.

[ecstatic]

65. Not sure I agree about the Twitter battles

Which ones did he lose? Dump sounded like a 12 year old in his response (at least the one that I'm aware of).

Link to tweet

[Hekate]

36. Shall we talk about this after November?

[blue cat]

37. I was torn between

Martin O’Malley and Tom Steyer.

[jcgoldie]

38. I chose old Joe but...

He's not who I will be voting for in the primary, I like Harris or Warren.

[maxsolomon]

40. Harris. Trump can't put her in his Insult Machine without consequences.

And Biden is a Septuagenarian. Sorry, DU Septuagenarians, that matters.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

41. My sense is we don't know yet

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Joe Kennedy III was born in 80, so he could certainly bring millennials to the polls in droves and has the Kennedy name; however, he looks like he's 12 and he'll barely be 40 on election day.

John Delaney of Maryland is a moderate in his 50s who is flying under the radar, but has done a helluva lot of ground game work. He has a kind of Joe Biden, common-sense guy vibe that I think voters could find appealing.

Mark Cuban has Trump-level media savvy and Trump-level money. The antidote to a celebrity President may, in fact, be another Celebrity President.

Kamala Harris could be the next President, the next AG in a Democratic administration, or the next nominee a Democratic President makes to the Supreme Court. Or she could remain Senator from California for a very long time.

Julian Castro and Eric Holder cannot be ruled out. I'd vote for Tammy Duckworth in a heartbeat, but I don't think she wants to run.

I like all of these people to varying degrees, but feel they are all too old to make a 2020 run: Joe Biden, Mike Bloomberg, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren. I hope all of them will make valuable appearances for the nominee on the campaign trail.

I think Steyer has yet to sell Democrats that he has their best interests at heart. Right now, all we know is he is holding town halls on impeachment.

I would have said Gillibrand, but I think she's really divisive within the party: those who think she made a valuable stand for Me Too, and those who think she stuck a knife in Al Franken. Whichever view predominates, I could potentially see this becoming a divisive party issue, like Hillary's and John Kerry's IWR votes.

[budkin]

44. Biden, hands down

Let's not fuck around.

[Omaha Steve]

45. Kick

[Roland99]

47. Jay Inslee

[Roland99]

48. Mark Dayton

[Roland99]

49. Amy Klobuchar

[Roland99]

50. Tim Kaine

[Garrett78]

51. Harris. I think Democratic turnout would be through the roof.

[BlueTsunami2018]

52. Biden for me.

But can he get through a primary? That’s always been his biggest hurdle.

Uncle Joe would wipe the floor with Тяцмр in the debates, on the trail and at the voting booth.

[bitterross]

53. FFS, Holy shit. Can we get through November first? FOCUS!

Damn, there is plenty still to do for this November. And a lot, I mean a LOT of stuff can happen after that before the 2020 election to make this conversation very outdated and moot.

Focus on the battle most near at hand.

[VOX]

59. THIS. Thank you!

When the house is on fire, you don’t sit there fussing over carpet samples.

First things first, for Christ’s sake.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

62. Some of us can walk and chew gum

[bitterross]

63. Not enough of us.

If that were the case we wouldn't have Trump in the Oval Office.

[jmowreader]

54. Jay Inslee would be good

He's the governor of Washington State, which has a lot of Republicans in it so he's used to working across-the-aisle.

[Persondem]

56. Jay Inslee, Gov. of Washing ton State. Great record as a congressman and an equally great

... record as a governor. He has legislative and executive experience, mid 50's and he is a fresh face ala Clinton in '92.

[Tarheel_Dem]

57. My #1 is Kamala. My #2 is Joe. n/t

[louis c]

58. A joe Biden Kamala Harris ticket is our best shot.

[OrwellwasRight]

64. Matt Damon

[Niagara]

66. It's imperative for us to win seats in the 2018 midterms

Out of your poll choices it would be Joe Biden hands down.


I'd really like to see any of the following run for 2020: Steve Bullock, Sherrod Brown, Julian Castro, Eric Garcetti, Eric Holder, Chris Murphy, and Joe Kennedy.

I would love to see a woman run too, although I would be worried since Trump is an infantile misogynist creep. I wouldn't want any woman to endure the treatment from Trump that Hillary dealt with. (bathroom break comments, lurking while checking out her backside, being called names, etc.) This terrible treatment is still etched in my memory.

If we're just going to throw celebrities in the White House from now I vote for a George Clooney/Leonardo DiCaprio ticket.