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I'm going to make a prediction that may be naive and might be proven wrong soon enough. But I honestly believe that if a tape of the President saying the n-word is made public, he will be forced to resign or at a minimum not run for reelection.
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Disagree. It will be the introduction of that word into the GOP's political vocabulary. It'll be shrugged off, forgiven, normalized, and then praised as a transgression that shakes up the system. Watch.
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spanone
(135,829 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,585 posts)He will probably go up in the polls. Everything has slid off of him so far. He surpasses Reagan as "The Teflon" POTUS.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...but he will certainly become even more worshiped by the 39% or so who already support him, and it will make them all-the-more determined to show up at the polls to defend him and his party. And, in a country where turnout already is only about 50%, an energized 39% might be all you ever need.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)...his approval ratings have gone up with AAs recently. He had a kissy face prayer meeting with black ministers in the WH and they signed on.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)Beartracks
(12,809 posts)You know: to show how American they are.
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)But if the N word becomes part of everyday parlance there is bound to be widespread violence.
eleny
(46,166 posts)People would gather outside his rallies protesting and a powder keg would go off.
Mark our words.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)This guy, likely a tweeker, was muttering to himself, "Nword this and Nword that." I said to myself this isn't go to end up well. Lo and behold there's this African American guy punching him. This female passenger hollers "call the cops". The bus driver stops and calls the cops. Of course the African American guy gets off. The tweeker gets off at the next stop. I'm a pretty big guy. The tweeker looks at me and this other guy and mutters pu--y under his breath. I'm not going to risk getting beat up to protect a racist.
There are two words that are like lighting a match, the NWord and the F word , and I mean the word that rhymes with bag and not truck.
eleny
(46,166 posts)He should know he was alone in his attitude that day. None of those types deserve protecting. They take too much for granted about everyone else.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)For the most part Angelenos get along but I would be liar if I said I have never seen racially fueled incidents here, just not many. As a white guy I am often in the minority but it's so diverse you don't feel like a minority.
Mz Pip
(27,440 posts)What if there was a video of Trump making fun of a disabled person?
What if there was a video of Trump mocking a former POW?
What if there was a video of Trump demeaning a Gold Star family?
What if there was a tape of Trump bragging about grabbing women by their genitals?
Of course theres a tape of Trump using the n word.
His minions wont care. In fact theyll just say hes saying what everyone is thinking so whats the big deal.
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,546 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Well done, Mz Pip
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)The only support he gets is from his death cult.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)He could hit 28%
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)He was around 37% in the aftermath of Charlottesville so there is room for more decline.
tblue37
(65,339 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)flying_wahini
(6,589 posts)Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)WE, THE PEOPLE have to take our nation back from neo-fascists.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)conservatives will say he was a young man at the time and he's matured a lot since then. Locker room talk!
dawg day
(7,947 posts)So am I, and I'm not 'young'.
but his fans won't need any excuse. He said it, therefore it's right.
Paul Ryan et al. will tut-tut and then shrug.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)excuse more hilarious. 😂
hibbing
(10,098 posts)His deplorables think it is perfectly acceptable to berate people in public using the word and other words. He has freed them from the evil liberals and their political correctness.
Peace
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)tblue37
(65,339 posts)people's view of Trump on both sides.
Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)Who in the intelligent world will be in any way surprised.
David Dennison is an entitled 8 year old in a rather poorly maintained 72 year old body. He is a lying narcissistic bully who failed to have the crap beat out of him as a child. Never learned a lesson.
Racial profanity was a regular part of his childhood until Fred had him shipped off to boarding school where other entitled children of wealth continued and re-enforced the racial canards. He never saw a black person outside of his servants until he needed them to legitimize his criminal enterprises.
He is, and always has been a NAZI!
Azathoth
(4,607 posts)superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)White america will take back the power of the word and use it 'liberally'
Nothing will happen.
Vote often.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)That would damage Trump and more than a small amount. It does not compare to the examples listed earlier in this thread. There would be marches and demonstrations. I don't discount DemocratSinceBirth's prediction of violence.
Imagine the reaction of those football players being told not to kneel, or the articulate NBA players who are already anti-Trump.
It would be a massive, massive sea change. Rick Wilson is a fool to dismiss this as merely absorbed by the base, and likewise the posters here in this thread and related threads are way off base.
Somehow we've been trained by Trump's outrageous words and acts to such extent we've lost track of what would be truly devastating for him. Those shots on 5th Avenue would lead directly to jail. The N word might not force Trump to resign or not seek reelection, but the Republican Party would now see him as a liability and prepare to challenge him in the primaries
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The pressure on those few who chose to stand would be enormous. Hispanic MLB players would kneel in a sign of solidarity. NBA players would kneel even though their CBA prohibits it. There would be chaos.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Erin Burnett just interviewed a Trump female campaign director who is on tape saying Trump said it...he's embarrassed...let's move on.
She was going unhinged trying to deflect and deny the context and everything else. Incredibly emotional and trying to monopolize the conversation.
No kidding. They are not stupid. They realize how much damage a tape like this would do, even if somehow the majority here think it would be just another 12 hour story.
tulipsandroses
(5,123 posts)Just 24 hrs ago, she denied having any discussion with Omarosa about Donald using the N word. Then Omarosa drops the tape of her confirming he said it. How embarrassing. She looks like a fool after denying ever even having a conversation and trying make Omarosa out to be a liar and then it turns out she's the one that was lying.
I am not an Omarosa fan, but she's beating them at their own game. The apprentice has surpassed the master. LOL!
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Grammy23
(5,810 posts)Will shout Hallelujah! They will high five and dance a happy dance.
Meanwhile, those who do not think there is ANYTHING that will take him down will yawn. Stretch and say, it is another day in this circle of hell.
I am in the camp that thinks nothing will take him down. If anything a tale of him using the N-word will just endear him to his minions. Sad, but true.
Botany
(70,501 posts)... Trump knows he doesn't have to be politically correct.
I know because my local bar is loaded w/Fox watching people who just know that the most important thing is the NFL kneeling issue.
progressoid
(49,988 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)If that doesn't stop his adorers, then nothing like that will.
Only something that is totally contrary to his persona...like him speaking kindly about Hispanics, or badly about his supporters.
Seriously. If a tape emerged with him saying kind things about Hispanic immigrants or Hispanics generally, that would hurt the support from his base.
world wide wally
(21,741 posts)We have more people and more votes.
Make them count!
Nobody has ever won a majority with 39%
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)It really opened the floodgates. Note that shit is now acceptable in late night more than it used to be.
budkin
(6,701 posts)Nothing will come of it.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)"...and isn't all scared about being 'politically incorrect'."
Besides, why should Republicans complain about him using a term which, even if they don't say out loud themselves, is certainly something they use in their own minds?
badhair77
(4,217 posts)At the very least theyll just say So what?
They are deplorable.
walkingman
(7,606 posts)Central Texas. They say it without blinking an eye. When I tell them not to use that around me they all claim they are not racists. These same folks all love Trump.
Caliman73
(11,736 posts)Republicans will condemn Trump softly, and distance themselves in some ways, but they will do nothing regarding getting him out of office. He will not be forced to resign, but he will not have full throated support from most Republicans, maybe a small group of the extremists.
What would likely happen is that it will enrage the Democratic Party and finally knock "independents" off the fence and get them out to vote out Trump and those who would not take a stand.
Trump will maintain his small base regardless. It is the non-politically activated that we are trying to energize and the president using that word might just be the spark.
tulipsandroses
(5,123 posts)Does anyone with a brain or anyone that truly cares think he is NOT a racist? Seriously?
I don't need to hear the tape. Look at everything he's said and done over the years. I don't need to hear him say the N word to know what he is. The tragedy is in the politicians and media that keep covering for him and refuse to stand up to him.
I agree with Rick - They will continue to provide cover for him. If the tape comes out, they will make him offer a weak apology . For crying out loud, Katarina wanted to know what context it was being used to find a way to spin it. And that was coming from a woman of color that supported him. I am utterly disgusted by her. I don't know how she lives with herself. He will not be forced to resign.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)... "Grab them by the pussy?" They would have demanded a lynching!
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)it in public already? He's an Asshole! Assholes do this kind of thing. Seriously, why hasn't he used it already? It's not like the Republican Congress will impeach him for it! Most of them have probably use that word in private, and EVERY OTHER RACIST term in the book.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)Mind you, if he was using the vocabulary today, it would be another matter. If you get this lard ass saying the "n word" from some time back, it's a non-factor, in my humble opinion.
I'm 70 now, and we used the "n word"as often as we wanted back when I was a kid, and even a young adult. It was wrong, and we never used it around anyone of color, but we used the word "queer", "wetback", and a host of other very derogatory names. It just wasn't that unusual. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, but it didn't matter....fifty years ago it was common place. Hell, we had "Eany, meany, miney mo, catch a "n word" by the toe"...Huckleberry Finn was filled with it. Black Sambo was a cartoon and you could buy those stupid cement pieces of a little black person to put out front of your house.
What I'm saying is, we got smart. We became conscious of just how hurtful and ignorant using such words was. I don't use the words anymore. But if you catch this dim witted slug using language like that from some years ago, it means NOTHING! Even five or ten years ago. It was common place with racist folks and even people who thought it was just "funny" or clever.
Times have changed, but of all the things this disgraceful deplorable con artist is guilty of today, using the "n word" is the least of his offenses.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Barack Obama was president. That's this generation.
I grew up in exurban Florida, where the suburbs touch the rural areas. I was in the seventh grade when Volusia County schools were finally completely desegregated pursuant to a court order in 1971. I rarely heard the Nword and I can say almost no one in my social circle used the word. You would look like a yahoo, even then. Our teachers , in 1971, in the exurban south were teaching the horrors of racism. When I look back they were conformists and disciplinarians but when it came to race they had a 21st century mindset. I thank God for them.
I did hear my fair share of homophobic remarks but when we learned one of our friends was gay at the end of the decade we supported him.
The N word is like lighting a match.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)...of course, my generation was ten years older, and closer to the Jim Crow days. We were afraid to go into the parts of Portland that were predominantly colored. I remember when I was drafted into the Army in 1969, and I finally had people of color for my brothers.....it was a real awakening. I grew up then. I think that, for me, was the awakening and the realization that we have been shafting people of color forever.
Florida was a long way from Portland, Oregon. Oregon has a history of being a KKK mecca. I don't think that affected me personally, since we moved out from Minnesota when I was only five, but my neighbors and the society I grew up in had a mindset that kept the black man "in his place". I remember ONE student at my high school that was black. I didn't know him, but I didn't know many in high school. We were tracked into academic tracks...and he was in a different wave length than me....higher.
That's the way it was for me. Hopefully my grandkids won't have any of those ugly experiences I had. I hope one day the people of color will be recognized by their character, and not the color of their skin any longer.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)They have no shame in the GOP and it is what they really think and feel. They'll be delighted to be able to use it again.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Maybe instead of 28% of young voters committing to vote, 34% commit to voting. Maybe some undecideds decide in favor of Democrats.
I think audio of Trump using racial slurs would hurt him only in the sense that it would up our odds in November.
JHB
(37,158 posts)You built the party that would do that, Rick.
Every statement you make should come with that disclaimer, but I'm not holding my breath for you to suddenly sprout integrity.
doc03
(35,328 posts)is a racist f---, it is not news.
pansypoo53219
(20,974 posts)dalton99a
(81,464 posts)and they will love him even more for it
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)And by this point I think Trump really could shoot someone in broad daylight in midtown Manhattan and his approval rating could rise
D23MIURG23
(2,849 posts)That less than 5 republican congress people will show any kind of disapproval or distance from him, while at least as many actively defend him. Mitch McConnell will be asked about it and opine that the real problem is that the tape was leaked, and besides it's just locker room talk.
brettdale
(12,379 posts)COME ON NOW.
That can be the only result, seriously, the GOP wouldnt have a fuckin choice.
You cant not honesty think Trumpy would last a day if the N word tape is aired.
Within half an hour there would be ten thousand protestors outside the white house.
within 12 hours, half a million. 23 hours, millions will be outside the white house, he will
be gone.
he would have to resign, some in the GOP may still support him, but it wont stop what will happen.
Seriously the WORLD WIDE outrage, you think he could last? Not a chance, hannity may huff and puff,
talk radio may say "well he wasnt president"
But the majority of people are good, If the apprentice outtake of trump saying the N word is released.
Its over for him, 100%.
brettdale
(12,379 posts)I thought the apprentice would not be released at all, but I think the odds
may be getting bigger, any thoughts??
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)Whoever has it is either a trump supporter themselves, or are in fear for their lives if they were to release it. Otherwise it would have bubbled up to the surface by now.
sellitman
(11,606 posts)The GOP will eat it up. He was right. He could kill someone in the street and be re-elected.
Just my .02
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)0rganism
(23,944 posts)although, as another poster pointed out, he should post disclaimers saying he helped build the monster that he now condemns in the latter stages of its rampage.
it's an important milestone on the road to hell, and we could pass it before year's end.
something to think about:
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)He says itll be the introduction of the n word to the GOP political vocabulary.
Im going to go ahead and call bullshit on that one. Theyve been saying it in private and in other ways since the Stone Age.