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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:36 PM Aug 2018

Is anybody as sick as I am about hearing how powerful and numerous the members of Cult 45 are ?

30%

If they took polls of Germans I'm sure 30% of Germans were still supporting Hitler when he committed suicide in his bunker, lest the Allies capture him alive.

The members of Cult 45 are not omnipresent, are not omniscient, and are not omnipotent.


Rant off...




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Is anybody as sick as I am about hearing how powerful and numerous the members of Cult 45 are ? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 OP
Very much so. They will never turn on Trump, so there's no point discussing them. John Fante Aug 2018 #1
Me too! get the red out Aug 2018 #6
Have to know your enemies and their capabilities Hortensis Aug 2018 #2
There is not a plurality, much less a majority of people who, countenance Trump's aberrant behavior. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #5
As I said, there doesn't have to be. We'll win if Hortensis Aug 2018 #8
The question should be 30% of what? LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #3
I am Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2018 #4
they are cowards as well. we can whip em. samnsara Aug 2018 #7
Unfortunately, it's not who has more supporters, it's whose supporters vote more reliably nt Azathoth Aug 2018 #9
You saying it is the first I've heard it. We must listen/read Ferrets are Cool Aug 2018 #10

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
1. Very much so. They will never turn on Trump, so there's no point discussing them.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:42 PM
Aug 2018

I'm also sick of hearing how the mid-terms are a lost
cause because of GOP rigging, Russia cheating for Trump, then he'll declare martial law, suspend elections, and blah blah blah. Some of us are starting to sound as paranoid as right-wingers.

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
6. Me too!
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:50 PM
Aug 2018

That conspiracy BS is probably not coming from any kind of legitimate source either. The "bots" play both sides.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Have to know your enemies and their capabilities
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:43 PM
Aug 2018

to be able to overcome. Frankly, they are nearly as numerous as us and on average far more committed to defeating their enemy. With gerrymandering, the electoral college's enormous advantage to low-population states, and illicit help (as in 2016), they can win and keep winning.

It's important to realize that conservatism was purged long ago from the Republican Party and replaced with mindless opposition to everything and anything liberal. And not to underestimate the power of simple, directed passion.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. There is not a plurality, much less a majority of people who, countenance Trump's aberrant behavior.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:47 PM
Aug 2018

We know it empirically and we know it anecdotally. As to the latter how many other business or governmental leaders in the U.S. conduct themselves like Trump ?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. As I said, there doesn't have to be. We'll win if
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:55 PM
Aug 2018

enough of those who claim to be for progressive government and to oppose trumpism and the greater threat hiding behind Trump vote.

Never forgetting that for Democrats to win a majority in the house typically approximately 10% more people have to vote Democrat than Republican.

Sounds dismaying, but without illicit interference in 2016 our nation would have elected our first Democratic woman president and given her a Democratic senate and, at worst, a far stronger house caucus.

There ARE more who are us and/or with us. We just have to vote like the majority we are to create a genuine revolution from the frightening reality of today.

And it really looks like this time we are.

LiberalFighter

(50,845 posts)
3. The question should be 30% of what?
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:45 PM
Aug 2018

Those that self-identify as Republicans?
Those that self-identify as White Nationalists?
Those that self-identify as Nazis?
Those that self-identify as Russians?
Those that self-identify as Evangelical Crazies?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
4. I am
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:47 PM
Aug 2018

I wrote a blog post elsewhere recently that I don't want to hear any more stories about 45's voters or supporters unless they're willing to own up to their MASSIVE error in judgement in 2016 and promise to vote better this year and in 2020. The MSM can't seem to stop themselves checking the pulse of Trump voters and whether they still support him or not. I can't recall a story about the shattered dreams, hopes, and fears of Hillary voters, immigrants, LGBTQ persons or anybody else threatened by Trump's policies. It's just crazy. MSM keeps trying to make Trump voters "special" somehow.

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