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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe day after election day, I awoke with an ominous feeling...
...which I have never been able to shake.
In my gut and in my heart, I knew that something was terribly, terribly wrong. Something had happened and it was going to be very, very tough for our nation to survive.
Donald Trump has acted just as I thought he would act - like a wannabe dictator. I thought we would be lucky if we made it six months. It is a stroke of luck that we have survived for nineteen months.
Robert Mueller has exhibited the patience of Job as he has investigated every nook and corner of Donald Trump and his associates, especially his Russian associates. As the recent book by Craig Unger, House of Trump, House of Putin, shows, in much detail, is that Trump has been doing business with the Russians since at least 1984. Unger reports that the Russians bought up five apartment suites for $6 million dollars in the Trump Tower in 1984.
The investigation continues. I suppose I don't have the patience of Job? I would like to see this case go to the Supreme Court, as soon as possible. We have to know whether or not our Judicial System is still working?
On top of seeing this case go to the Supreme Court, it would be preferable to see Mueller request that a Commission be created to further study this invasion by Russian cyber warriors, in my opinion.
This Commission would be created by Congress and would be delegated to continue the Mueller investigation to its conclusion. The Executive Branch would have no control of the Committee. It would be bi-partisan in members and independent in statute. It would only dissolve once a final report had been submitted to the whole Congress.
It's going to take a long time to fix this mess...
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)republicans are betraying America with their submissive complacency.
kentuck
(111,056 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,534 posts)Slim to none, or
ZERO.
Your ideas are excellent, but I don't see any of them happening.
kentuck
(111,056 posts)...but it's all that I can do, at this time.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,534 posts)kentuck
(111,056 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,009 posts)We KNEW - right then and there - the election was stolen - hacked - and we were in a different dimension of reality in the US.
kentuck
(111,056 posts)...the alternate reality - a different dimension. How could they rationalize in such a way? Even if their stories never matched reality or simple facts, they could find a way to rationalize in their own minds to make it acceptable and "truthful". Not only was it delusional, it was deceitful delusion. They deceived themselves.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)2naSalit
(86,345 posts)honest.abe
(8,617 posts)Tumbulu
(6,268 posts)And my best friend died over it, it broke his will to live. And my old fashioned normal fiscally responsible BIL had a stroke.
No, its really a huge deal.
Boomerproud
(7,943 posts)but watching Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow et al saying night after night "This is NOT NORMAL!!" hasn't changed a damn thing (I'm not blaming them). I have no answers any more.
jeffgad
(93 posts)I have a selfie in my white shirt with my I Voted sticker that was taken on election day. The next day I fell from the roof. I woke up about a month later, and it wasnt until around Christmas that I figured out Trump had won. I literally woke up to a new world. I have no memory of November-December 2016. Recovered from the smashed hip, broken face and TBI, but experiencing depression for the first time in my life. Dont know why I posted, I guess the date rang a bell.
3catwoman3
(23,951 posts)And so sorry about what you had to wake up to.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)It was a sense of heavy falling. The floor had just fallen out and there was only a kind of abyss.
ZeroSomeBrains
(638 posts)I went to bed shortly after hearing the numbers from florida michigan and Pennsylvania. I tossed and turned thinking of the supreme court and never slept. In some ways it has been worse than I imagined it could be but we at least still have each other and have to remain engaged to take the house and senate in november.
Aristus
(66,294 posts)Thank you for sharing your story.
ZeroSomeBrains
(638 posts)Aristus
(66,294 posts)Trump's electoral lead (I kept thinking: "But she's killing it in the popular vote! She's killing it in the popular vote!), I fell into a kind of trance, rocking back and forth like a scared kid.
I barely slept that night. The next day, I didn't last longer than an hour at work, and told my boss I was going home for the rest of the day. I went home to Mrs. Aristus, who had the day off anyway, and we held each other for hours in a kind of stupefied daze...
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I was bothered as hell that Virginia too so long to come through for Hillary.
and then everything fell apart around us.
Something felt very wrong that night.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)ad before I got out of bed, I asked my husband in the room next to our bedroom, "is it still true?".
He said yes. We were wrecked. We could barely talk to each other for about 5 days it was so devastating.
This election result made 2000 between Gore and Bush fell like a walk in the park -- that one felt stolen, this one felt very very off. I was shook.
This election was not normal -- to be really honest it was more abnormal that Bush V Gore.
triron
(21,984 posts)My girlfriend and I watched the returns late in disbelief. When it was final she walked out on the porch to smoke. I told her she had to give me a cigarette. We went back in, hugged and cried. So awful.
catbyte
(34,341 posts)the classical music channel. The vile hacking of DU just made it worse. It was a full 6 months after the coup d'etat was complete (1/20/17) that I was able to watch any tv news at all. I'm still not feeling normal.
Something dark & dangerous happened on 11/8/16 and we are still in danger. I've been pissed off at elections before (beginning when I was 12 & Nixon was elected, lol), but I never felt a sense of evil & dread the way I felt when I woke up the morning of 11/9/16.
I don't think things will be fixed in my lifetime. I just hope there are younger, tenacious patriots out there who are willing to right the terrible wrongs that were committed on November 8, 2016, afterwards, and continue to this day.
kentuck
(111,056 posts)We need the Legislature (Congress) to take a stand for the people.
And I mostly still listen to classical music.
catbyte
(34,341 posts)Baroque music is much better for my psyche these days.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)All the tweets from a Florida elections expert were ominous. He was stunned, after being upbeat an hour earlier.
I'll never forget when he tweeted that Trump was pulling higher numbers than any Republican in 20 years in something like 48 Florida counties. They were all the rural counties.
That was game, set, match. It meant the trend would transfer elsewhere, to all the pivotal states.
I took one look at the New York Times online forecast of Michigan and realized it was hopeless.
The networks didn't catch up to reality for at least another half hour.
***
Trump has been much more of a lowlife than I ever imagined possible. I don't know how anyone could have predicted this level of lies and deceit. And I knew all about the Roy Cohn devotion yet I still didn't think this was possible.
The one aspect that has not surprised me is the lack of remedy. I refuse to watch Rachel Maddow and get caught up in false hope. I feel bad for all the posters here who have been suckered.
Our system simply isn't designed to cope with a president and party sharing this level of treachery, and fully in power.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)as expected. Then, DU got hacked, so no words of wisdom or empathy.
Its actually been much worse than expected. While it was clear trump is a callous racist/bigot, and his supporters are the worst in our society, I hoped hed sort of rise to the occasion when he realized he was Prez. Chit no. As much as I despised george war bush, there were a few things that were a surprise refused to go after immigrants despite pressure, and signing Medicare drug bill. Latter is not perfect, but its better than no coverage.
ismnotwasm
(41,968 posts)Ive been pissed off ever since, and plan on staying that way.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Now I'm just in a constant state of anger and disgust. Impatiently waiting for November 6.
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)I started drinking about 9:00 or so, I think. It was worse than a nightmare. I couldn't tear myself away from watching the numbers come in, either, as if the whole thing was going to reverse itself somehow. It was the same kind of feeling I've gotten when told someone close to me has died. I could barely function the next day. I think the thing that got me through the next few months was to focus on the fact that President Obama was still in office for the time being.
I too figured things would go much further south much more quickly than they have. I'd have guessed we'd been in at least one major war by this time.
mnhtnbb
(31,374 posts)because holding Merrick Garland up made no sense otherwise.
I had tried to get my husband to return to a plan we'd made during Bushie boy years to have a small retirement home in a tropical place foreign country that we could use in winter, sell our house in US and have apartment or small condo here. If things went South with the election, then we'd have an escape hatch. Bonaire was our choice in 2015, it had been Panama in 2005. We went to Bonaire, made an offer on a place, and on the flight home my husband changed his mind. Refused to go through with it. When Trump actually got the nomination, I told him if he wins you have to at least agree that we move to Hawaii. Get as far away as possible from gun nuts, bigots, racists, and Trump supporters without leaving the country.The day after the election I started setting up our go look at Hawaii trip. About a week later I was ready to book the trip when I realized it would be Bonaire all over again. I asked him point blank and he said no he wasn't going to move.
There was something else at play going on with him, which I knew but he wouldn't acknowledge, and I realized we were stuck. I have never been so depressed. A year later I left him.
Still waiting on both personal issue of divorce due to required separation of one year before you can file for divorce in NC and political future of the country in November with election. If Dems don't at least take the House, this country's experiment with a republican form of government is dead. We will become a fascist state, I fear. I don't know whether I have the energy and patience to move abroad on my own at this stage of my life or whether I'll just withdraw into my own little world to do the best I can getting by for the rest of my life. It all hangs on the election in November.
Vinca
(50,237 posts)Thanks for reminding me of the name of that book. I wanted to buy it and couldn't remember the title.
pansypoo53219
(20,955 posts)sure, it was about dan quayle, but the moron is as stupid. we need a rock star of a candidate in 2020. tho, the moron will kill the economy.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Would HRC been better? YES! A thousand times YES!!!!!
Can we stop this merry go round? I want OFF!