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bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:04 PM Aug 2018

Pollsters: Trump and GOP are losing young, female voters permanently

Pollsters Anna Greenberg and Dan Cox said on Monday that President Trump and Republicans are losing young women to Democrats permanently.

"When you ask millennial women who are likely voters, about 65, 68 percent would actually vote for a Democrat in the generic congressional race, so that puts them as base Democratic voters," Greenberg, a partner at Greenberg, Quinlan, Rosner, told Hill.TV's Krystal Ball on "What America's Thinking."

"What we know is that in your coming of age years, from sort of your teens into your early 20s, have a profound, long-term impact on what your partisanship and voting patterns are for the rest of your life," she continued.

"So, not only in this moment are these millennial women heavily, heavily Democratic and heavily hostile to Trump, but it's likely that they are going to sort of be the vanguard of, I think, the feminization of the Democratic Party," she said.


http://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/402705-pollsters-trump-and-gop-are-losing-young-female-voters

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Pollsters: Trump and GOP are losing young, female voters permanently (Original Post) bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 OP
The only people who are still republicans under the age of 30 htuttle Aug 2018 #1
Agree 100%. C Moon Aug 2018 #21
true dat paulkienitz Aug 2018 #24
Uneducated youth, we see them all the time in Oklahoma. redstatebluegirl Aug 2018 #28
That's Why They Continue Coming Up With New Ways To Cheat nt LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #2
exactly. They will create a law to target young women "no voting in heels" Demovictory9 Aug 2018 #31
My daughter is one of these millenials. lark Aug 2018 #3
I'm the same way, just as a male. bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #5
Thanks for that word from the real world! lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #11
My son turned 18 in time for the 2016 general (but not the primary). What a crap first election! deurbano Aug 2018 #18
I think this young woman's still in the fold... Leghorn21 Aug 2018 #4
Which young woman? GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #6
The tablecloth woman is 12, at least she acted that age. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #8
Look at all of those white faces! Who knew? nt TwistOneUp Aug 2018 #16
Ah yes, the TRUMP base, fuled by burning rage... Still In Wisconsin Aug 2018 #23
That's no young woman! I don't see anybody in that photo calimary Aug 2018 #27
If the Democratic Party is "feminized" and sociopolitical Hortensis Aug 2018 #7
I Think Yes To The Eventual Breaking Of The Hold Me. Aug 2018 #26
I agree with your thinking. If it weren't for the Hortensis Aug 2018 #30
Roughly 28% of millennials seif-describe as liberal compared to 15% of Silent Generation Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #9
Why would they be even within smell distance of the Repuke party to begin with?!1 UTUSN Aug 2018 #10
That's great--IF they turn out to vote Vogon_Glory Aug 2018 #12
They will disappoint again Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #15
I'm expecting it to be somewhere between. bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #19
That's a reasonable goal Awsi Dooger Aug 2018 #20
I just hope they get out and vote in records numbers NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #13
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #14
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #17
So young women don't want a rich old pervert to grab them by the pussy? Still In Wisconsin Aug 2018 #22
And I'm sure their solution will be to repeal the 19th amendment pecosbob Aug 2018 #25
Maybe with a little luck, they won't have the women to reproduce with. world wide wally Aug 2018 #29

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
1. The only people who are still republicans under the age of 30
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:06 PM
Aug 2018

...are racists and those weird incel types. Who are also racists.

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
24. true dat
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:34 PM
Aug 2018

the red pill / incel cult is a documented feeder path for white supremacism, often the first facet of fascist/reactionary ideology to attract new recruits.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
28. Uneducated youth, we see them all the time in Oklahoma.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 07:04 PM
Aug 2018

They either dropped out of high school or barely graduated and work in the oil fields. They are hardcore Trumpers. They also intimidate people who disagree with them.

lark

(23,097 posts)
3. My daughter is one of these millenials.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:11 PM
Aug 2018

She's always been a Democrat, but was much more of a moderate version than me - up until drumpf. Now she's so energized against him, she's getting people she works with to register and is taking several of them to the polls in the primary and general. He's definitely pushed her leftwards and made her an activist. She also rarely confronts me over being too far left anymore, she's pretty much right beside me, lol. drumpf would super hate this, especially as she and her husband are doing well financially.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
5. I'm the same way, just as a male.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:19 PM
Aug 2018

Was pretty much moderate...until 2016. I'm 25 years old and never much cared for politics until a couple years ago. Now, I'm voting straight Democratic and volunteering for the Joe Donnelly campaign. Probably never happens if Trump had never entered the political fray.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
18. My son turned 18 in time for the 2016 general (but not the primary). What a crap first election!
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:09 PM
Aug 2018

I was in the same situation-- turning 18 in time for the general, but not the primary (back when the voting age had just been lowered)--and I always thought my first election (1972) would be hard to beat in terms of crappy outcomes. (Turns out the Republicans could sink much, MUCH lower into the depths of depravity.)

calimary

(81,220 posts)
27. That's no young woman! I don't see anybody in that photo
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 07:02 PM
Aug 2018

who even remotely looks like a millennial. My kids are both millennials. Don’t think they’ll EVER be swayed over to that other side. It’s just NOT who they are. And Thank God for that!!!

I told my kids that if they feel like they might ever vote republi-CON, then PLEASE at least wait til after I’m dead.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. If the Democratic Party is "feminized" and sociopolitical
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:26 PM
Aug 2018

outlook is the single strongest factor in choosing a partner (it is), what happens next? Right now it's about women 56% Democrat or leaning-Dem independent to 44% men.

Will that finally break the hold of white bigots who favor old-fashioned female roles on the GOP, with moderate conservatives -- including minority -- flooding in and taking control? Or will it finally cause formation of a new, more moderate conservative party serving both sexes, leaving the remnant GOP as an increasingly shrunken extremist party?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
26. I Think Yes To The Eventual Breaking Of The Hold
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:49 PM
Aug 2018

of white bigots. Nothing lasts forever and they have been running amok for centuries. Nor do I forsee the formation of a new conservative party. Moderate yes, practical indeed, progressive in that people and their welfare will become important and corruption will no longer have a foothold. There are those who will take that term feminized and try to weaponize it as a way of holding onto power but for all the supposed ascendancy of Comrade Trump and his ilk, the roof is bound to fall for lack of support beams. There is no there, there.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. I agree with your thinking. If it weren't for the
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 12:44 AM
Aug 2018

dynamics that resulted in the unthinkable in 2016, an authoritarian, wannabe fascist president, a dutiful-follower Republican congress, and potential packing of SCOTUS, with by far the worst of all a real rise of fascistic thinking and social conservative dominance among right-wing voters, I'd be sure you had to be right. Now I just believe it will probably turn out that way.

This time in 2016, before the hijacking, all polls of voters still showed they were giving Democrats the presidency for sure, the senate also virtually certain, and even possibly the house. This second blue wave is also real and big, but the struggle for national power is huge and continues.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
9. Roughly 28% of millennials seif-describe as liberal compared to 15% of Silent Generation
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 04:40 PM
Aug 2018

So that is the ongoing transfer. The Silent Generation was born 1928-1945. As that generation reaches the end of their lifespan the nation becomes steadily more liberal solely via the ideology of the young replacing the people who came of age during Truman and Eisenhower. As the article indicates, late teens into early 20s has a profound impact on lifelong partisanship. The Silent Generation turned 18 with either a Democrat in Truman with low approval ratings throughout the majority of his terms -- despite successful re-election -- or Eisenhower who enjoyed extremely high approval throughout but especially during his first term.

We can be frustrated at the current senior citizen crop for voting Republican and favoring Trump, but it was always going to happen based on the realities of their youth. Obviously it doesn't apply to everyone so whenever I post this topic there are older members of this website who exclaim they are from the Silent Generation yet extremely liberal. Yes, I understand. I deal with percentages and more often than not and big picture explanations. Those explanations really aren't that complicated, as long you don't get carried away with day to day details, which can only serve to distract from foundational realities.

Another reality is that young single women do not show up in midterms. It is typically the most disappointing block of all, and helps contribute to our poor performance in midterms, especially when a Democrat controls the White House and our side is not particularly energized.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
12. That's great--IF they turn out to vote
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 05:27 PM
Aug 2018

That’s great if they register, then vote. Sitting around and dissing the Rethuglies might feel good, but if they follow the foolish example of all too many of their non-voting Texas sisters and brothers and stay home when it counts, the Rethuglies will remain in charge—even without the help of the Russian GRU.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
15. They will disappoint again
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 05:36 PM
Aug 2018

No reason to believe otherwise.

https://www.refinery29.com/2017/05/156740/single-women-equal-pay-voting

"Single women are a very powerful, progressive political force, yet compared to married women, they under-register and don’t vote in as high percentages," says Page Gardner, the founder and president of the VPC. "Part of it is their lives are so stretched and stressed; almost half of them make minimum or sub-minimum wage. The second reason is [that] we make registering and voting somewhat difficult in this country."

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To be fair, he's a more optimistic recent article from 538, indicating young women may be more engaged this time, because of so many female nominees. I don't like adjustments from the norm so I'm not fully buying it. That block tends to stay home:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-young-women-might-get-more-women-elected/

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
19. I'm expecting it to be somewhere between.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:14 PM
Aug 2018

They’ll vote at 3 or 4 points higher than usual. It’ll help form the blue wave, but it’s not going to singlehandedly destroy the GOP in November.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
22. So young women don't want a rich old pervert to grab them by the pussy?
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 06:22 PM
Aug 2018

Who would have thought? Don't they know their place in society?

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