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garybeck

(9,939 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:30 PM Jan 2012

Undercover police cleared 'to have sex with activists' (UK)

Undercover police cleared 'to have sex with activists'
Promiscuity 'regularly used as tactic', says former officer, contradicting claims from Acpo



Undercover police officers routinely adopted a tactic of "promiscuity" with the blessing of senior commanders, according to a former agent who worked in a secretive unit of the Metropolitan police for four years.

The former undercover policeman claims that sexual relationships with activists were sanctioned for both men and women officers infiltrating anarchist, leftwing and environmental groups.

Sex was a tool to help officers blend in, the officer claimed, and was widely used as a technique to glean intelligence. His comments contradict claims last week from the Association of Chief Police Officers that operatives were absolutely forbidden to sleep with activists.

more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jan/22/undercover-police-cleared-sex-activists

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I would just like to know, why is the focus on leftwing and environmental groups? what about AlQueda and real terrorists?


credit to Mark Crispin Miller for forwarding this story via email
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Undercover police cleared 'to have sex with activists' (UK) (Original Post) garybeck Jan 2012 OP
sad that any behavior claims against US police are now completely believable nt msongs Jan 2012 #1
I'm sure the spouses and SO's of these cops are GREAT with this. arbusto_baboso Jan 2012 #2
another reason not to marry a cop. really honey, just part of the job. rollin eyes. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #7
Well THAT's not the fucking creepiest thing ever or anything. Robb Jan 2012 #3
There's your "family values" at work Hugabear Jan 2012 #4
Be advised that this is in the UK oberliner Jan 2012 #11
Where are you getting "family values" from here? nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #12
Right-wing politicians who push for police action against "liberal" activist groups Hugabear Jan 2012 #14
much like fighting heresy was an excuse waddirum Jan 2012 #21
Everyone should note that they're talking about MineralMan Jan 2012 #5
Not with cops, but I've read plenty of accounts of the FBI/CIA doing it... Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #30
Not equivalent and not relevant. MineralMan Jan 2012 #31
What does undercover policeman's wife have to say about this when they catch crabs? NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #6
"...when they catch crabs?" KansDem Jan 2012 #10
I think it is just a cage with some bait waddirum Jan 2012 #22
I beg to differ about who is likelier to have the crabs in teh first place... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #16
Oh man, not me. EFerrari Jan 2012 #28
OK, I'll come out and say it Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #8
It's being violated though isn't it. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #15
Obtaining sex by fraud would indeed be rape a simple pattern Jan 2012 #20
I think it should be, yes (nt) petronius Jan 2012 #23
it's definitely on that spectrum waddirum Jan 2012 #25
Yes, one might say people lie to get laid all the time... Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #26
In defense of the police: (Sarcasm) Betty Karlson Jan 2012 #9
That was one of my first thoughts Mabus Jan 2012 #32
disgusting limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #13
Right. It's amazing the amount of projection going on. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #18
"That's very offensive." Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #27
The cops are lying jerk-offs. This is pure fascist bilge geared toward making their ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #17
Perhaps they'll learn something from it Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #29
And approved for police women too? Are you sure this isn't promoting the protest? think Jan 2012 #19
Oh yuck...just yuck Marrah_G Jan 2012 #24

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
4. There's your "family values" at work
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:33 PM
Jan 2012

I guess having random sex with strangers is ok as long as you're doing so in order to target progressive activist groups.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
14. Right-wing politicians who push for police action against "liberal" activist groups
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:47 PM
Jan 2012

Whatever it takes, I guess.

waddirum

(979 posts)
21. much like fighting heresy was an excuse
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jan 2012

for Spanish Inquisition Priests to indulge in their love of torture.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
5. Everyone should note that they're talking about
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:35 PM
Jan 2012

officers in the UK, not in the US. It's worth keeping in mind. I haven't heard any such reports about such activity in the US.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
30. Not with cops, but I've read plenty of accounts of the FBI/CIA doing it...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jan 2012

At one time (and maybe still today) the CIA had a huge stable of 'honey traps' (male and female) to cater to the various sexual tastes of their target...

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
31. Not equivalent and not relevant.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jan 2012

I only posted that because some people seemed to think this was about US cops. It's not.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
6. What does undercover policeman's wife have to say about this when they catch crabs?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:35 PM
Jan 2012

Sorry, but this one is a little too unbelievable for me.

Don

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
16. I beg to differ about who is likelier to have the crabs in teh first place...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:47 PM
Jan 2012

but the police do have unmarried officers, you know.

This must be fairly common with informants, if not officers, all over the world.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
28. Oh man, not me.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 03:33 PM
Jan 2012

You should've seen the DEA agents we used to translate, Don. They looked like Miami Vice without a shower for a month. They'd have slept with anyone without blinking an eye.

waddirum

(979 posts)
25. it's definitely on that spectrum
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jan 2012

and it should be cause for suing the police / government for monetary damages.

Capitalocracy

(4,307 posts)
26. Yes, one might say people lie to get laid all the time...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 03:31 PM
Jan 2012

but while some might not be phased by it, I think most people who met someone at an activist group, had sex with them, maybe had feelings for them, and discovered they were an undercover police officer spying on them (why? btw), they would be more than a little upset, and would not have consented with that information. It's pretty damn close to rape if you ask me.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
9. In defense of the police: (Sarcasm)
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:38 PM
Jan 2012

Left wing activists often look well-groomed, intelligent, smart, sophisticated and so on: the kind of people you would LIKE to have intercourse with.

Can't imagine any police officer volunteering to "infiltrate" a Teabagger rally. Not that there would be any intelligence to be gleaned from a Teabag rally, but still.

(/sarcasm)

Mabus

(14,352 posts)
32. That was one of my first thoughts
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jan 2012

Sex with a progressive, liberal person or sex with an uptight, right-wing person? Not a question for me.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
13. disgusting
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jan 2012

Is this how cops got to be called pigs?

This is extremely wrong and people should be fired


"As regards being with women in very, very, very promiscuous groups such as the eco-wing, environmental movement, leftwing, or the Animal Liberation Front – it's an extremely promiscuous lifestyle and you cannot not be promiscuous in there.
That's very offensive.

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Basically it's just regarded as part of the job. It'd be highly unlikely that you were not
That's a lie. They did it because they are huge disgusting perverted pigs.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
18. Right. It's amazing the amount of projection going on.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:49 PM
Jan 2012

This is typical straight-world sex fantasy about the dirty anarchist hippie flower children. They need this!

 

T S Justly

(884 posts)
17. The cops are lying jerk-offs. This is pure fascist bilge geared toward making their ...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jan 2012

Impotent asses look like what they're not, which is men that others want intimacy with.
Lol, the fucking louts!

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