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Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:53 PM

Is there anyone to replace John McCain in the Republican party?

As often as I disagreed with John McCain, there was never any question he has a patriot. He loved his country and the Senate. He was a flawed but decent man.

When confronted with a president of his party who is neither a patriot nor a decent man, he stood up to him. He did so because he placed his country above the his party. Now, Senator McCain's party blindly follows a president to the point that it turns its back on John McCain and embraces not only an attack on our democracy but even the adversary nation that conspired, and continues to conspire, in that attack.

I hope but am not hopeful that somewhere in DC there is a republican Senator that is struck by the loss of Senator McCain and wonder if he or she should step-up and become the next real lion of the Senate - someone who puts the country and the institution of the Senate above the very short-term interests of the party.

As I say, I am not hopeful because it is difficult to be hopeful these days. Nevertheless, I will continue to hope.

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Reply Is there anyone to replace John McCain in the Republican party? (Original post)
TomSlick Aug 2018 OP
Trust Buster Aug 2018 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #2
TomSlick Aug 2018 #3
onecaliberal Aug 2018 #4
RainCaster Aug 2018 #5
TomSlick Aug 2018 #6
Lifelong Protester Aug 2018 #7
Nevernose Aug 2018 #8
PJMcK Aug 2018 #9
TomSlick Aug 2018 #10
SammyWinstonJack Aug 2018 #13
phleshdef Aug 2018 #16
joshcryer Aug 2018 #11
TomSlick Aug 2018 #12
Zambero Aug 2018 #14
Thunderbeast Aug 2018 #15

Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:54 PM

1. Probably not. Many moderate Republicans are not running for re-election. Very sad.

 

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Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:54 PM

2. No, they're all cowards who are too afraid of Trump's base of mouth-breathers

to stick their necks out at all.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 09:56 PM

3. That is my fear.

Cowards accomplish very little and nothing good.

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Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:00 PM

4. No. EOM

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Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:03 PM

5. Not with his sense of honor

He served us as a servant does. The mark of an old time politician who lived to serve his constituents. There are few left with his servitude.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:05 PM

6. I fear you are correct.

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Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:08 PM

7. No.

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Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:08 PM

8. I question his patriotism.

It’s actually a fairly big question. He left his fellow POWs and MIAs in Vietnam nightmares, and then curtailed people into looking for them. There were credible reports — some from North Vietnamese generals — that they were holding Americans as hostages and POWs. John McCain not only allowed that to happen, he aided and abetted it.

He voted with Trump 85% of the time, and with Dubya 99%. He has directly and indirectly caused the suffering and/or death of MILLIONS of people. That doesn’t just include foreigners. That number includes his fellow Americans: POWs, MIAs, veterans, and civilians.

Research on this started in the 1970sband has only grown. For a start, check this out. https://www.thenation.com/article/why-has-john-mccain-blocked-info-mias/

Vietnam?
POWs?
Keating 5?
Iraq war?

John McCain doesn’t deserve our sympathy. Just because he claimed he was a patriot who spent his life “serving his country” doesn’t make him one, nor does his disagreeing with President Shithead ONE TIME.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:12 PM

9. + 1. (n/t)

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:22 PM

10. McCain had an ability many lack,

to realize our political opponents do not have to be our enemies. It is the loss of the ability to disagree without despising that led to the current morass of American politics and eventually to the rise of Trump.

John McCain was a flawed individual who made the wrong political decision more often than not. However, to question his patriotism is beyond the pale. When Trump questioned John McCain's heroism as a POW did not dishonor McCain, it dishonored Trump. You have fallen into the same error.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:43 PM

13. ...

Not a popular position to take around here tonight.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:11 AM

16. I question yours.

 

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Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:25 PM

11. He was the last one.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:27 PM

12. As I said, it is difficult to be hopeful.

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Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:02 AM

14. It certainly won't be "moderate" Susan Collins

The hostile Trumpapocalypse takeover of the GOP points to a total capitulation of party over country. As Harry Reid once noted, Collins was a reliable vote to side with Senate Democrats, unless her vote was actually needed.

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Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2018, 12:11 AM

15. I nominate Ben Sasse.

He has a ways to go, but it could happen. Conservative, but not crazy.

If Lisa Murkowski can get by her pay for play traits, she could be moderating voice. Sadly, she is in the pocket of fossil fuels industry.

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