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TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:53 PM Aug 2018

Is there anyone to replace John McCain in the Republican party?

As often as I disagreed with John McCain, there was never any question he has a patriot. He loved his country and the Senate. He was a flawed but decent man.

When confronted with a president of his party who is neither a patriot nor a decent man, he stood up to him. He did so because he placed his country above the his party. Now, Senator McCain's party blindly follows a president to the point that it turns its back on John McCain and embraces not only an attack on our democracy but even the adversary nation that conspired, and continues to conspire, in that attack.

I hope but am not hopeful that somewhere in DC there is a republican Senator that is struck by the loss of Senator McCain and wonder if he or she should step-up and become the next real lion of the Senate - someone who puts the country and the institution of the Senate above the very short-term interests of the party.

As I say, I am not hopeful because it is difficult to be hopeful these days. Nevertheless, I will continue to hope.

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Is there anyone to replace John McCain in the Republican party? (Original Post) TomSlick Aug 2018 OP
Probably not. Many moderate Republicans are not running for re-election. Very sad. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #1
No, they're all cowards who are too afraid of Trump's base of mouth-breathers The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #2
That is my fear. TomSlick Aug 2018 #3
No. EOM onecaliberal Aug 2018 #4
Not with his sense of honor RainCaster Aug 2018 #5
I fear you are correct. TomSlick Aug 2018 #6
No. Lifelong Protester Aug 2018 #7
I question his patriotism. Nevernose Aug 2018 #8
+ 1. (n/t) PJMcK Aug 2018 #9
McCain had an ability many lack, TomSlick Aug 2018 #10
... SammyWinstonJack Aug 2018 #13
I question yours. phleshdef Aug 2018 #16
He was the last one. joshcryer Aug 2018 #11
As I said, it is difficult to be hopeful. TomSlick Aug 2018 #12
It certainly won't be "moderate" Susan Collins Zambero Aug 2018 #14
I nominate Ben Sasse. Thunderbeast Aug 2018 #15

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)
2. No, they're all cowards who are too afraid of Trump's base of mouth-breathers
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 10:54 PM
Aug 2018

to stick their necks out at all.

RainCaster

(10,831 posts)
5. Not with his sense of honor
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 11:03 PM
Aug 2018

He served us as a servant does. The mark of an old time politician who lived to serve his constituents. There are few left with his servitude.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
8. I question his patriotism.
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 11:08 PM
Aug 2018

It’s actually a fairly big question. He left his fellow POWs and MIAs in Vietnam nightmares, and then curtailed people into looking for them. There were credible reports — some from North Vietnamese generals — that they were holding Americans as hostages and POWs. John McCain not only allowed that to happen, he aided and abetted it.

He voted with Trump 85% of the time, and with Dubya 99%. He has directly and indirectly caused the suffering and/or death of MILLIONS of people. That doesn’t just include foreigners. That number includes his fellow Americans: POWs, MIAs, veterans, and civilians.

Research on this started in the 1970sband has only grown. For a start, check this out. https://www.thenation.com/article/why-has-john-mccain-blocked-info-mias/

Vietnam?
POWs?
Keating 5?
Iraq war?

John McCain doesn’t deserve our sympathy. Just because he claimed he was a patriot who spent his life “serving his country” doesn’t make him one, nor does his disagreeing with President Shithead ONE TIME.

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
10. McCain had an ability many lack,
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 11:22 PM
Aug 2018

to realize our political opponents do not have to be our enemies. It is the loss of the ability to disagree without despising that led to the current morass of American politics and eventually to the rise of Trump.

John McCain was a flawed individual who made the wrong political decision more often than not. However, to question his patriotism is beyond the pale. When Trump questioned John McCain's heroism as a POW did not dishonor McCain, it dishonored Trump. You have fallen into the same error.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
14. It certainly won't be "moderate" Susan Collins
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 01:02 AM
Aug 2018

The hostile Trumpapocalypse takeover of the GOP points to a total capitulation of party over country. As Harry Reid once noted, Collins was a reliable vote to side with Senate Democrats, unless her vote was actually needed.

Thunderbeast

(3,400 posts)
15. I nominate Ben Sasse.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 01:11 AM
Aug 2018

He has a ways to go, but it could happen. Conservative, but not crazy.

If Lisa Murkowski can get by her pay for play traits, she could be moderating voice. Sadly, she is in the pocket of fossil fuels industry.

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