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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn this day let us remember a real American hero
In 1963, 55 years ago today, MLK's speech "I have a dream" happened.
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(3,020 posts)SkyDancer
(561 posts)on this site, posting about the anniversary of MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech gets you 1 rec'd but JOHN MCCAIN gets a shit load.
Where am I?
Says it all.
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(3,020 posts)But wherever it is, it's led you to a wrong and sweeping conclusion about the people of DU. Think of us as 'decency and respect' Democrats. It's not difficult, just listen.
SkyDancer
(561 posts)I see people praising someone who voted against LGBT rights, MLK's holiday, minimum wage, health care, and supporting endless war. You know what? It's disgusting. That's what. It's revisionism and I doubt we'd be praising McCain at all had Hillary won and he had not gotten into some war of words with Trump.
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(3,020 posts)John McCain is dead. You'll not change his history or behavior. You'll not change any opinion of him.
Eulogies are not for you or your irritations. Eulogies are for the living, the relatives, those who carry on. It's an attempt to extract something good from the life and the loss, and to hold it up for praise and emulation. Everyone involved already knows the decease's failings. No one needs reminding. To bring it up only serves to make a perpetual enemy of those who are painfully mourning. Decent people know this. Find a snippet worth living for and move on.
That's just civil society 101, the basics. There's no reason to turn his death into a tribal war unless it's a tribal war you want.
SkyDancer
(561 posts)who else are we discussing?
Civility 101? Like how voted against health care for millions of people enabling people's deaths?
Nah, sorry.
Time to stop romanticizing monsters.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)The human race is conveniently divided into two categories.
Monster or saint.
Not surprised to hear that, though.
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(3,020 posts)They were there for the speech. My friend showed me photos of where they stood and many times he told stories of the day. They'd come down from NYC in a car with Ornette Coleman. I met them all some years later, but was a bit too young then and too distant to even consider attending. My friend was a drunk and could be an asshole, but when we buried him we told riotously funny stories and remebered good things about him.
For what it's worth, the core message of that day, in twenty-five words or less, was that all citizens must treated with equal decency and respect, with rights backed by rule of law. And none of the following civil rights laws would have been passed without at least some Republican crossovers or compromises.
But anyway, it's getting later than you think, and it sounds like you're doubling down for tribal war, staying outside the norms, and elevating McCain to 'monster', which leaves no room for when you encounter a real one. I see some grand ideals, which, with no allies from the decency wing of either party, I assume will magically be realized...how? Does that not matter?
So what's your game here?
It's weird to watch someone get so angry because their posts don't get the preconceived number of recs.
SkyDancer
(561 posts)praise McCain on a site dedicated to Democrats.