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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPlease just come out and say it: some of you think a black man can't win the Florida governor race
And if that's how you feel, let's discuss.
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mcar
(42,307 posts)Really sick of the vague "just not this one" complaints on DU tonight.
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Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)The Primary is now over so it's time to get in line and support whichever Democrat won.
Don't tell us we're idiots for voting how we did.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,328 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)spicysista
(1,663 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Sadly...
flying rabbit
(4,632 posts)Oh fuck.
malaise
(268,957 posts)That is all
PhilosopherKing
(317 posts)Hilary lost, Kerry lost, Gore...well we know what happened.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Gillum should help urban turnout but he is a wild card with preference among swing voters. I tried to juggle the variables last week and I mentioned them in a post in the Florida forum...traditional white moderate female versus scandal ridden progressive black male with all the lingo and activist support.
Gillum now needs to show what he is made of. There is a massive difference between rank outsider with no spotlight on you at all, and nominee who will be scrutinized on everything he has ever said or stands for.
The right wing money machines are going to attack Gillum from all directions, and soon. I hope we are aware of that. I live in Miami and the Republican operation here is extremely sophisticated. They are not going to allow this race to settle for a month. I guarantee those commercials and mailers will be showing up almost immediately. If Gillum snoozes like Bill Nelson has, then there's a double digit deficit in a flash.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)He's from the other side of the state so he must have concentrated on that area. I just hope he can win. We cannot afford to lose this.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I read about him and watched some online spots, but his commercials didn't show up until the final week.
I will say this...Gillum smartly targeted where he played those commercials. I saw them on major sporting events like the preseason NFL games and that PGA golf event with Tiger Woods playing.
He also apparently used Facebook very effectively compared to Graham, from what I've read elsewhere.
Cha
(297,176 posts)brooklynite
(94,513 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)brooklynite
(94,513 posts)I start out with cautious concern. Ill support him (financially) if my model says the race is competitive.
brooklynite
(94,513 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)And we all know how that led to Michael Dukakis handily defeating George H.W. Bush. Oh wait.
Primary turnout isn't actually correlated to general election turnout.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/02/01/how_much_does_voter_turnout_matter_112990.html
Atticus
(15,124 posts)elected POTUS. And, while we're citing conventional wisdom, Trump will NEVER be POTUS either.
"The way things are" is not "the way things were".
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Kind of a toss up. There are also some advantages to both when talking electorally.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I posted this in the Florida Forum:
"I noted he had many high profile endorsements, primarily from the Sanders wing.
Mostly I'm concerned about nominating a woman. I know so many guys my age (59) or thereabouts who definitely would consider a scandal-ridden black male above a clean-slate white woman. That may sound ridiculous but it is the way they think.
If we lose another race like 2010 and Alex Sink I'm going to be sick."
Retrograde
(10,134 posts)He won the Democratic primary race for governor. There's still the election in November.
I hope he does well. I hope that the people who voted for him today will do so in November, and will encourage their friends and neighbors to do the same. Given Florida's past history with elections I wouldn't celebrate until the last vote is counted and he's sworn in.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And then there's the FBI investigation that's linked to Gillum.
On the other hand, there's a large Black population in Florida, and the conventional wisdom might be wrong. Gillum may do better than Graham would have, and hopefully it helps that DeSantis won the GOP nomination. This will be one of the more interesting races to be sure.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Who is gonna stand up to Big Sugar?
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)Levine had been talking a lot about the environment and how Rick Scott and the Repubs are to blame. Levine and Greene were both accusing each other of supporting Trump - lol! They had a tape of Greene talking about how great Trump was - just glad that ass didn't win.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)A meme I saw on Facebook
__Republican
__Democrat
XClean Water
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)He didn't even consider Gillum.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)He insisted it ahead of time, that Democrats could not afford another safe strategic choice like Alex Sink or Charlie Crist:
Link to tweet
still_one
(92,182 posts)who happened to also endorse the Democratic nominee in 2016
Now let's work to defeat the trump stooge in Florida
TomSlick
(11,097 posts)The odds are not relevant. I don't care if the Democrat is a over whelming favorite or underdog. The only answer is to organize and get out the vote.
Let's go Florida! Go team go!
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)That's the consensus right now. I've looked at some betting sites. It probably went from a tilt D with Graham to tilt R with Gillum.
Tilt is the lowest edge...maybe 4 points
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)He had the courtesy to show up for a candidates debate in Homestead...none of the others did.
The only way he doesn't win is if he doesn't get enough votes.
No reason why a black man can't beat a white crook.
mcar
(42,307 posts)That impressed me - he got my vote and I will happily campaign for him!
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Gillum had a statewide showing. Did well everywhere, campaigned well everywhere. He is a good campaigner and obviously knows his state.
Its on!
JennyMominFL
(218 posts)Obama won Florda twice. I dont think Gillums race will hurt him noticably
kimbutgar
(21,137 posts)I knew America was still racist, the repukes and the orange maggot just pushed into overdrive .
Somehow President Barack Obama won and my country surprised me.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)A win will be difficult.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)And I will happily vote for Gillum. I honestly did not care which one won the primary and I think if I had known as much about Gillum before I voted as I have learned since I voted, I probably would have voted for him in the primary.
Lack of due diligence is on me.
Lady_Chat
(561 posts)I was watching an analyst on CNN, he said Gillum won in all the same areas that voted for Hilary in 2016. But Hillary lost in Florida, so I don't know if it depends on a candidates "color" but whether or not his views are popular with voters in Florida. Also, Gillum is supposed to be backed by Bernie Sanders, has any candidate backed by Sanders won office, not just a primary, but elected to office? Thank you!
JI7
(89,247 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)but he was only backed last minute by Bernie, and was a delegate for Hillary Clinton and endorsed her, so he looks to be pretty mainstream. This was answered for me in another thread, but I was also wondering.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)with him.
Cha
(297,176 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)He needs to get on the air quickly with positive spots. His messaging and delivery are excellent but if he allows DeSantis to dominate the airwaves in the next few weeks it may be too much to overcome.
I always hope Democratic candidates understand the necessity of an early lead in the general election polling. Comebacks are for suckers. This isn't a primary with high percentages of undecideds and lots of soft views. Voters tend to cement early. Outlier examples are meaningless. Get the damn lead and take your chances
JI7
(89,247 posts)what helped Obama is Charlie Crist was Governor the first time around and he did everything to make it very easy for people to vote. he wasn't in office the 2nd time around but Scott also hadn't been in office that long.
Democrats can win but democrats have to work harder to win there.
every fucking democrat needs to come out and vote. republicans will do anything they can to prevent heavily dem areas from voting.
and now we have to deal with putin and shit.
but it's not impossible.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)about is voter suppression.
AllyCat
(16,180 posts)We need more minorities and women in office. A great, energized candidate can draw voters to the polls who may not feel represented. More voters, a better cross section of our country, voters excited about a candidate that can do good for them and thus, everyone else...that is how we get our country back from the evil that has gripped it. Go Mr Gillum! Congratulations! Florida, you have a chance to be represented by someone great!