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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWas Chuck Shumer wrong to "group confirm" many of Trump's picks for Judge?
Or was he being realistic in doing so, recognizing that ultimately they would be confirmed anyway?
We all know that trhe GOP controls the Senate. And beause of that, Trump can nominate nearly anyone with the expectation that Multi-millionaire Mitch McConnell will tell his puppets in the GOP bloc to vote yes.
So what would be gained by delaying votes?
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)ck4829
(35,042 posts)Maybe its time to start arguing against the legitimacy of this political body that is more about serving the interests of white oligarchs.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)is if enough of them vote for a majority of Democrats there.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The People control who is elected, but even then, the people really means those who bother to vote in any particular election.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,562 posts)Remember how the Republicans always behave, even when they're losing:
They never give up, they keep fighting.
We could learn from that!
Why in hell don't we?
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)We will have these judges for decades and we know next to nothing about them.
diva77
(7,639 posts)Mystery sage
(576 posts)Is that we need new democratic leadership for the minority or majority( Should we win the Senate) after the the midterms. Because sorry to say the leader right now is a little too weak for the problems we have right now.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)This was a group that was going to be confirmed. That isn't really in question.
What did our candidates really get out of it? Do we know the full story?
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)We get to go home and campaign... they get essentially nothing (just the judges that would have been confirmed if the Senate didnt break).
diva77
(7,639 posts)A perspective I agree with here:
Democrats inexplicably cut deal to give Trump more judges, faster. We have to make them stop this
Joan McCarter
Daily Kos Staff
Wednesday August 29, 2018 · 10:21 AM PDT
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/29/1791897/-Democrats-inexplicably-cut-deal-to-give-Trump-more-judges-faster-We-have-to-make-them-stop-this
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There's not much Senate Democrats can do to stop these nominees entirely, not while Republicans still hold the Senate. But there's an awful lot they could do, as detailed in this thread by former leader Harry Reid's deputy chief of staff Adam Jentleson, to slow down the works. Just like Republicans did under President Obama. But fighting Trump's nominees is not about tit-for-tat, even though there's a sizable portion of the activist base that needs to see a willingness on the part of Democrats to play as dirty as Republicans. It's about the integrity of the courts. It's about the fact that the person in the Oval Office is very likely there in part because he conspired with a foreign adversary to get there. He simply should not be in a position to reshape the courts.
Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court is the stooge Trump needs to fight the inevitable legal process against him. The only hope we've got of stopping this train wreck is convincing one or more Republicans that he's too extreme and dangerous to have on the court. That he would be is not in question. His views on health care and on executive authority in particular are enough to demonstrate that. But how is a Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) going to be convinced to buck her leadership and oppose him if it's obvious that the Democrats aren't being whipped to stand together against these nominations? Why would she stick her neck out?
So that means it's on us. We're going to have to be the leaders on this, clearly. That means we have to whip the half of Senate Democrats who haven't stated where they stand on Kavanaugh. We have to lead them where Schumer won't.
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Here is tweet from former leader Harry Reid's deputy chief of staff Adam Jentleson:
Link to tweet
This comes down to leadership. Senate Dem leaders could take a stand and station one senator on the floor at all times to object, forcing McConnell to jump through interminable hurdles & produce 51 votes - twice - for each nominee, likely resulting in fewer lifetime Trump judges.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)Democrats from Red States must realize that NOTHING they do will help them politically with the deplorables
diva77
(7,639 posts)vi5
(13,305 posts)I propose this as our new party motto.
It's sure to energize the people!