HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Was Chuck Shumer wrong to...

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:24 PM

Was Chuck Shumer wrong to "group confirm" many of Trump's picks for Judge?

Or was he being realistic in doing so, recognizing that ultimately they would be confirmed anyway?


We all know that trhe GOP controls the Senate. And beause of that, Trump can nominate nearly anyone with the expectation that Multi-millionaire Mitch McConnell will tell his puppets in the GOP bloc to vote yes.

So what would be gained by delaying votes?

16 replies, 845 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 16 replies Author Time Post
Reply Was Chuck Shumer wrong to "group confirm" many of Trump's picks for Judge? (Original post)
guillaumeb Aug 2018 OP
Anon-C Aug 2018 #1
ck4829 Aug 2018 #2
WillowTree Aug 2018 #7
pnwmom Aug 2018 #12
guillaumeb Aug 2018 #16
CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2018 #3
Delmette2.0 Aug 2018 #8
diva77 Aug 2018 #10
Mystery sage Aug 2018 #4
NCTraveler Aug 2018 #5
FBaggins Aug 2018 #6
diva77 Aug 2018 #9
Va Lefty Aug 2018 #11
diva77 Aug 2018 #15
vi5 Aug 2018 #13
msongs Aug 2018 #14

Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:28 PM

1. Time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:30 PM

2. The People control the Senate. Not the white supremacist GOP

Maybe itís time to start arguing against the legitimacy of this political body that is more about serving the interests of white oligarchs.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ck4829 (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:51 PM

7. Who told you that?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ck4829 (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:20 PM

12. This is a Democratic site, not an anarchist site. The only way the "People" control the Senate

is if enough of them vote for a majority of Democrats there.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ck4829 (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 04:13 PM

16. But this body helps to make law.

The People control who is elected, but even then, the people really means those who bother to vote in any particular election.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:33 PM

3. I think he was wrong!

Remember how the Republicans always behave, even when they're losing:

They never give up, they keep fighting.

We could learn from that!

Why in hell don't we?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:59 PM

8. Yes, he was wrong.

We will have these judges for decades and we know next to nothing about them.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:05 PM

10. +1,000,000

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:34 PM

4. All I know

Is that we need new democratic leadership for the minority or majority( Should we win the Senate) after the the midterms. Because sorry to say the leader right now is a little too weak for the problems we have right now.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:36 PM

5. I'm not sure, to be honest.

 

This was a group that was going to be confirmed. That isn't really in question.

What did our candidates really get out of it? Do we know the full story?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:47 PM

6. Probably not

We get to go home and campaign... they get essentially nothing (just the judges that would have been confirmed if the Senate didnít break).

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:04 PM

9. "We have to make them stop this."

A perspective I agree with here:

Democrats inexplicably cut deal to give Trump more judges, faster. We have to make them stop this
Joan McCarter
Daily Kos Staff
Wednesday August 29, 2018 ∑ 10:21 AM PDT

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/29/1791897/-Democrats-inexplicably-cut-deal-to-give-Trump-more-judges-faster-We-have-to-make-them-stop-this

SNIP
There's not much Senate Democrats can do to stop these nominees entirely, not while Republicans still hold the Senate. But there's an awful lot they could do, as detailed in this thread by former leader Harry Reid's deputy chief of staff Adam Jentleson, to slow down the works. Just like Republicans did under President Obama. But fighting Trump's nominees is not about tit-for-tat, even though there's a sizable portion of the activist base that needs to see a willingness on the part of Democrats to play as dirty as Republicans. It's about the integrity of the courts. It's about the fact that the person in the Oval Office is very likely there in part because he conspired with a foreign adversary to get there. He simply should not be in a position to reshape the courts.

Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court is the stooge Trump needs to fight the inevitable legal process against him. The only hope we've got of stopping this train wreck is convincing one or more Republicans that he's too extreme and dangerous to have on the court. That he would be is not in question. His views on health care and on executive authority in particular are enough to demonstrate that. But how is a Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) going to be convinced to buck her leadership and oppose him if it's obvious that the Democrats aren't being whipped to stand together against these nominations? Why would she stick her neck out?

So that means it's on us. We're going to have to be the leaders on this, clearly. That means we have to whip the half of Senate Democrats who haven't stated where they stand on Kavanaugh. We have to lead them where Schumer won't.
SNIP

------------
Here is tweet from former leader Harry Reid's deputy chief of staff Adam Jentleson:




This comes down to leadership. Senate Dem leaders could take a stand and station one senator on the floor at all times to object, forcing McConnell to jump through interminable hurdles & produce 51 votes - twice - for each nominee, likely resulting in fewer lifetime Trump judges.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to diva77 (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:12 PM

11. Why won't they do this!

Democrats from Red States must realize that NOTHING they do will help them politically with the deplorables

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Va Lefty (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:28 PM

15. check out action alert I just posted

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:21 PM

13. "We can't anyway so why bother"

 

I propose this as our new party motto.

It's sure to energize the people!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:23 PM

14. well no need to have senators if they just rubber stamp trump. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread