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Cynthia Nixon and Andrew Gillum ROCK. We need more like them. (Original Post) Chickensoup Aug 2018 OP
Cynthia Nixon's plan for racial reparations: RandySF Aug 2018 #1
this was alerted as a right wing smear OriginalGeek Aug 2018 #11
She did say it RandySF Aug 2018 #17
I salute you for being honorable. Thank you. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #64
What is the connection between the two? NCTraveler Aug 2018 #2
Queen Elizabeth and the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man are both GREAT! Squinch Aug 2018 #51
lolollololol JHan Aug 2018 #66
Did you see her last night in the debate with Andrew Cuomo? George II Aug 2018 #3
Gillum yes, Nixon NO WAY. She is inept and has no idea what she is doing. still_one Aug 2018 #4
+1...nt SidDithers Aug 2018 #13
+1. They're very dissimilar and imagining otherwise Hortensis Aug 2018 #83
Cool Story, Bro ! stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #5
... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #6
lol Cha Aug 2018 #7
Nurse Jackie akways has the right medication grantcart Aug 2018 #69
Nitrous Oxide! NurseJackie Aug 2018 #70
Cynthia Nixon wants to govern NYC octoberlib Aug 2018 #8
True, dat. Cynthia Nixon is no Andrew Gillum. DinahMoeHum Aug 2018 #9
Yeah LoveMyCali Aug 2018 #73
It's unpopular to point out that NYC is not all that matters. EllieBC Aug 2018 #16
Yep. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #22
... LexVegas Aug 2018 #10
Really? peggysue2 Aug 2018 #12
Cynthia Nixon is awesome! SkyDancer Aug 2018 #14
Figures you would chime in on this. honest.abe Aug 2018 #25
Mad because I support Democrats? SkyDancer Aug 2018 #39
..... ehrnst Aug 2018 #44
Something about a 3 dollar bill comes to mind. honest.abe Aug 2018 #54
Yup mad SkyDancer Aug 2018 #56
You're funny! honest.abe Aug 2018 #60
I try SkyDancer Aug 2018 #61
All of our new friends are in this thread. It's like a party for them. Squinch Aug 2018 #49
Indeed. honest.abe Aug 2018 #55
Some new friends remind me of old friends... SidDithers Aug 2018 #74
Lol! Yes exactly! Squinch Aug 2018 #79
Nixon does not know what she is doing. drray23 Aug 2018 #15
I agree. Governor is not an entry level job in government. ehrnst Aug 2018 #18
Sounded in the debate like she knew what she was doing. nt JCanete Aug 2018 #43
Yup and she won the debate SkyDancer Aug 2018 #53
Yes on Gillum...... absolute NO on Nixon. scheming daemons Aug 2018 #19
It is ok to disagree . Chickensoup Aug 2018 #20
Okay I now understand the point of your OP. this was your way.. JHan Aug 2018 #21
Bingo. Squinch Aug 2018 #46
Please take your Republcan lite crap elsewhere. honest.abe Aug 2018 #23
I said it is ok to disagree. But to tell go elsewhere u have no right to claim this Chickensoup Aug 2018 #29
That is a derogatory term that only serves to divide and hurt us as a party. honest.abe Aug 2018 #34
Bingo. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #36
Your cadence is weirdly... familiar... Squinch Aug 2018 #47
"Not a softer, gentler version of the Republican Party." tammywammy Aug 2018 #30
The truth hurt sometimes. Chickensoup Aug 2018 #32
It's a bullshit statement. n/t tammywammy Aug 2018 #35
Can't hurt anything when it isn't the fucking truth. Blue_true Aug 2018 #38
When you get around to speaking some truth, we'll let you know. Squinch Aug 2018 #48
Just Stop Insulting our'Democratic Party. Cha Aug 2018 #75
I live in NYS. Cuomo passed legislation to raise the miminum wage lapucelle Aug 2018 #80
Big difference. Gillum won his primary. Nixon won't win hers. MineralMan Aug 2018 #24
The same thing they said about Gillum SkyDancer Aug 2018 #40
I never said that. MineralMan Aug 2018 #42
lol not you SkyDancer Aug 2018 #52
We sure do!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #26
Define "we." johnp3907 Aug 2018 #27
She is not in the same league as Gillum. n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #28
Well FINALLY! You guys have FINALLY come up with a new technique. The old ones were getting SO Squinch Aug 2018 #31
This is not Chicken Soup for the Soul. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #41
No indeed! Squinch Aug 2018 #45
Nixon will get swamped outside a few Brooklyn precincts RandySF Aug 2018 #33
What was your prediction for the primary in Florida? oberliner Aug 2018 #50
What was your prediction for the Alabama special election? LanternWaste Aug 2018 #57
What was your prediction for Kansas District 3 when Sharice Cha Aug 2018 #76
True. Her poll numbers are in the toilet shenmue Aug 2018 #62
Great to see diverse views being recognized Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #37
+1 SkyDancer Aug 2018 #59
Gillum has executive experience as a mayor RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #58
She said she organized rallies in school. justhanginon Aug 2018 #67
Hey bake sales are no laughing matter RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #72
Why are you trying to tie the two together. Do you think it helps Nixon? PubliusEnigma Aug 2018 #63
I find both to be too far left for my taste. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #65
Gillum, yes. Cynthia, not convinced. IluvPitties Aug 2018 #68
Gillum....Oh Yeah. Nixon.....not so much calguy Aug 2018 #71
This is not helping my soul ornotna Aug 2018 #77
Ms Nixon who insists on 76 degree temps so she can wear her sleeveless dresses pnwmom Aug 2018 #78
it's an insult to Andrew Gillum to compare him to Cynthia Nixon JI7 Aug 2018 #81
Nearly half of her donors do not live in New York State, according to campaign finance filings ehrnst Aug 2018 #82

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
11. this was alerted as a right wing smear
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:59 AM
Aug 2018

I voted no it wasn't because:
a) I very, very rarely vote to hide any speech
and
b) I thought she actually did say this.

SO, if it was taken out of context, alerter should defend that position or else I am forced to continue believing Cynthia actually did say this.
On a related note, I am for more cannabis dispensaries but I still don't think CN is a great candidate.
I am excited to be able to vote for Gillum in the FL Governor's race.

RandySF

(58,511 posts)
17. She did say it
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:18 AM
Aug 2018
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2018/5/8/17331660/cynthia-nixon-marijuana-licenses-reparations

“New York gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon is facing criticism after suggesting that giving black people access to marijuana licenses could serve as a “form of reparations” for black communities.”

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
51. Queen Elizabeth and the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man are both GREAT!
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 03:58 PM
Aug 2018

We need more ... uh... things like them!!!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
83. +1. They're very dissimilar and imagining otherwise
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 10:54 AM
Aug 2018

is an insult to him. Besides judgement and competence, Gillum is a Democrat of substance and experience who has always harnessed establishment power to achieve his goals. Gillum ran to win.

Nixon might be a fine citizen who identifies as a democratic socialist, but she's a joke candidate, with no record of achievement or experience. She has no expectation of winning, but the PR is keeping her name and face in the public eye.

On the campaign trail, Gillum framed his mayoral term as a preview of what he’d do as governor. As mayor, he spent more than two years in legal battles with pro-gun groups, which sued Tallahassee to rescind local laws banning guns in city parks. (Gillum prevailed.) He successfully pushed to “ban the box” in Tallahassee—removing criminal records from consideration for job applicants—and worked to increase communication between police and inner-city communities. Gillum puts himself in the progressive (rather than centrist) Democratic tradition; while he was supported by Democratic Socialists of America members, he does not identify as a socialist.

https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/08/tallahassee-mayor-andrew-gillum-could-become-floridas-next-governor/568876/

DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
9. True, dat. Cynthia Nixon is no Andrew Gillum.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:53 AM
Aug 2018

I also watched the debate last night and there were times I thought I stumbled onto the
NYC Mayor's debate instead of the statewide Governor's one.

Unlike Nixon, Andrew Gillum is an experienced legislator and executive, being mayor of Tallahassee.

Mayors and governors are executive positions, coordinating the work of representational legislators (city council, state assembly, state senate, etc.) This is especially true for governors and their legislatures, whose decisions affect the whole of their state.

And as such, a governorship is not a place for political novices like Cynthia Nixon.
She is way out of her depth here. If she garners more then 35% of the vote September 13, it will be a miracle.

LoveMyCali

(2,015 posts)
73. Yeah
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:46 PM
Aug 2018

It makes me wonder why people think they should start out as governor or president. For the love of God, get some experience. Find out how governing actually works.

EllieBC

(2,990 posts)
16. It's unpopular to point out that NYC is not all that matters.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:16 AM
Aug 2018

The rest of NYS is lovely and needs a lot of work.

 

SkyDancer

(561 posts)
56. Yup mad
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:10 PM
Aug 2018

In a primary I will ALWAYS choose the candidate who is the progressive.

Stay angry that some of us want change & progress.

drray23

(7,616 posts)
15. Nixon does not know what she is doing.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:16 AM
Aug 2018

Gillum on the other hand is impressive. He is a Democrat with actual experience. He also has charisma, and from what I have seen so far seem to be able to bridge the gap between the sander's wing and Hillary's wing. He is unique in that regard. He was a delegate for Hillary, was on her short list for VP.

He is also pushing for some of the more progressive positions that Sanders was championing. As an aside, many of these progressive positions such as universal healthcare and $15.00 minimum wage are part of the democratic platform.

During the primaries he not only did well in his area around Tallahassee but he also ran up Broward county and other areas that were suppositely the strongholds of his opponents.


This tells me he is pulling voters that the other dems did not touch. This bodes well for November. This morning g he was being interviewed and made a point to mention the Puerto Rican community who settled into Florida after leaving their devastated island. He is likely to get their vote.



 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
18. I agree. Governor is not an entry level job in government.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:29 AM
Aug 2018

I could respect Nixon more if she ran for city council or statehouse, instead of running for Governor. That would show that she was serious about learning the ropes and doing the work. The vast majority of government is administrivia, meetings and budget spreadsheets. The minority of the job is "vision," speeches and parades.

I have to wonder if she feels that's not worth her time and energy, and doesn't want to be anywhere but NYC.

Chickensoup

(650 posts)
20. It is ok to disagree .
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:51 AM
Aug 2018

I believe that we do not need business
as usual, that time has passed, we are
at a cross roads. The Urban League recent
study shows that 50%of all Americans
Can't pay for their basic needs. We need
bold answers and political fighters for America. Imagine if president Lincoln
negotiated and compromised with the
Secessionist, America would be 30 or 40
separate countries today.
The Dems needs a bold and clear vision
Not a softer, gentler version of the Republican Party.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
21. Okay I now understand the point of your OP. this was your way..
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:54 AM
Aug 2018

of sliding in that both parties are the same or that Democrats are Republican Lite.

Right. Thanks.

Makes sense now.

Chickensoup

(650 posts)
29. I said it is ok to disagree. But to tell go elsewhere u have no right to claim this
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 12:49 PM
Aug 2018

Forum as yours only ... Sad.

honest.abe

(8,616 posts)
34. That is a derogatory term that only serves to divide and hurt us as a party.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:17 PM
Aug 2018

If after nearly two years of Trump/Republican hell and you still cant see the difference between Democrats and Republicans, then you are either clueless or lying. Yes, take that crap elsewhere.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
30. "Not a softer, gentler version of the Republican Party."
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 12:51 PM
Aug 2018


Your BS attempt to paint the Democratic Party as republican-lite may go over better elsewhere.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. Can't hurt anything when it isn't the fucking truth.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:50 PM
Aug 2018

If, after 2 years or complete republican control of national government, you can't see a distinct difference, then there is no reason for anyone to waste time trying to reason with you.

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
80. I live in NYS. Cuomo passed legislation to raise the miminum wage
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 01:25 AM
Aug 2018

through a series of increases (NYC will be at $15 this year; other regions will be at be at $15 by 2019-2021), and state and city university is now free for low and middle income full time students. Cuomo has had a very effective term, and he speaks to the needs of all residents.

https://www.ny.gov/new-york-states-minimum-wage/new-york-states-minimum-wage

https://www.suny.edu/suny-news/press-releases/10-2017/10-1-17/tuition-free-suny-cuny-numbers.html

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
31. Well FINALLY! You guys have FINALLY come up with a new technique. The old ones were getting SO
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 12:52 PM
Aug 2018

boring.

This is a ridiculous OP, but A for effort!

justhanginon

(3,289 posts)
67. She said she organized rallies in school.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 05:27 PM
Aug 2018

Certainly that counts for something. I mean, how hard can it be to run a state?

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
63. Why are you trying to tie the two together. Do you think it helps Nixon?
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:52 PM
Aug 2018

Gillum actually has some experience and a shot at winning.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
78. Ms Nixon who insists on 76 degree temps so she can wear her sleeveless dresses
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:12 PM
Aug 2018

during debates?

So, by the time all the equipment is added into the room, it's about 80 in there?

Ugh. I noticed she wore a jacket this time. Good idea.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
82. Nearly half of her donors do not live in New York State, according to campaign finance filings
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 10:09 AM
Aug 2018
And the progressive blocs that Ms. Nixon’s campaign has declared will drive her to victory are not united in their support. After the national progressive group Indivisible endorsed Ms. Nixon, several local branches issued an open letter of dissent: In their Facebook groups, members worried about Ms. Nixon’s lack of governing experience. Prominent women’s and gay rights groups have backed Mr. Cuomo.




https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/nyregion/cynthia-nixon-voters-cuomo-governor.html
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