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grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 08:13 PM Sep 2018

Interesting observation re: McCain and Trump

Okay, here it goes... cards on the table: I occasionally lurk over at Conservative Underground. No apologies from me. Governments and industry do it too, but they call it spying. I just don't get paid for it, I don't carry a gun, and I haven't worn my trench coat in years.

Anyway, I found that some members over there don't like McCain because he opposed Trump. Which brought up something which I thought was interesting.

McCain was a Republican, a long-time Republican. Now that he's gone, it seems Republicans don't like him (or worse) because he opposed Trump. Meanwhile, from I see see here, Democrats do like him (or more) because he opposed Trump.

So now the guy has fans in both parties for the same exact reason.

How many times has that happened before?

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Interesting observation re: McCain and Trump (Original Post) grumpyduck Sep 2018 OP
They started disliking him long before that TlalocW Sep 2018 #1
An excellent analysis. eom guillaumeb Sep 2018 #2
He also genuinely believed in compromise localroger Sep 2018 #3

TlalocW

(15,380 posts)
1. They started disliking him long before that
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 08:39 PM
Sep 2018

Above all else, McCain had honor so he ran as a republican at the worst possible time - when the Tea Party had taken over. He tried to appeal to them with Palin (or whoever convinced him to take her on), but when he defended Obama as a good man, just someone he disagreed with, it signaled the beginning of the end with him and the new republican party. Then when he didn't beat the Muslim, he was persona non grata.

When he started opposing Trump, he became more popular with democrats than with republicans.

TlalocW

localroger

(3,626 posts)
3. He also genuinely believed in compromise
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 08:54 AM
Sep 2018

...which is why the feeling seemed to be mutual as the Republicans turned into the "party of nope" around him. He didn't want Palin for his VP, he wanted Lieberman (who is disagreeable for other reasons, but at least was a nod toward the center instead of the whackadoodle far right). I have to smile every time I think of that down vote he showed up to give on Obamacare repeal. Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is indeed my friend, and in that moment McCain was sticking a shiv only he could wield deep into the heart of the shambling monster his party had become.

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