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Trump and Russia since 1980? (Original Post) UCmeNdc Sep 2018 OP
I wonder how far back Mueller is investigating him? BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #1
Not at all surprising...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #2
This book and the Russia-Trump cash case serious;u needs traction here. empedocles Sep 2018 #3
So do other writers. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2018 #4
Don't forget Seth Abramson's brand new book "Proof Of Collusion" Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #5
Just finishing this book DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #6

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
1. I wonder how far back Mueller is investigating him?
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 04:43 PM
Sep 2018

If he IS following the money than he is going to have to go way, way back to the moron's beginnings.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. This book and the Russia-Trump cash case serious;u needs traction here.
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 04:58 PM
Sep 2018

This issue is so crucial to November. It is a winning issue. Seems that relatively few voters are aware of its implications. Even on DU, Russia-trump support gets relatively few comments; compared with less or non November issues, some of which get huge numbers of comments. Scary.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. So do other writers.
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 05:07 PM
Sep 2018

Wayne Barrett ( now deceased) also writes about Rudy, he was an investigative journalist from NYC for decades.

Tim O'Brien

David Cay Johnson talks about his history with Trump going back decades, he is on Youtube.

Even more interesting is Bill Browder's book which I am reading right now.
He was responsible for getting the Magnitsky law passed,
and tells how and why the Russian oligarchs fled Russia with their money, neatly tying in the Trump/russia story:

Red Notice: A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man's Fight for Justice

Grasswire2

(13,564 posts)
5. Don't forget Seth Abramson's brand new book "Proof Of Collusion"
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:27 PM
Sep 2018

Simon & Shuster, available on pre-order.

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
6. Just finishing this book
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:41 PM
Sep 2018

It's a bit of a dry read as most of it is spent tracing the roots of the Russian mafia and oligarchs and their infiltration of the Italian mafia in the US. But the last few chapters get into the importance of Ukraine to Putin. It did a good job of showing Yanukovich and Manafort's role in keeping Ukraine solidly in Putin's control. It explains just how much money was flowing through Ukraine via the energy trade and how Putin arranged for natural gas to be bought low by his favored oligarchs and sold at market prices. It's easy to see how Manafort's clients were able to pay him so handsomely. It helps the reader understand why the change to the RNC platform regarding Ukraine was made and why it was important.

It also reveals how Trump, Manafort and Stone have known each other for many years and how Manafort and Stone were also disciples of Roy Cohn.

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